NISSAN TRIALS 2007

[Miss Wendy]

Hi everyone,

Well it’s early days yet but the Nissan Club is already working on the 2007 Trials. We are getting a bit of a reputation lately for special events and rain, and this played true for the ‘06 Trials albeit not as severe as the 2005 event. Never the less a very full contingent of 104 competitors battled the weather to provide a weekend of thrills, spills and entertainment for the huge crowds that braved the elements.

Congratulations to all those who battle through the events last year.
Most competitors seemed to get well into the events to have a good go despite the weather.
Wombats Revenge worked very well after its 2006 respite with many vehicles making it to the 100 points and the others providing great photo opportunities with their ‘flop-overs’.
Trees Revenge also worked very well with the addition of the new garage allowing a better approach angle for the second section.
And the damn Dam, again with way to much water despite continually pumping out over Friday and Saturday, supplied much entertainment to crowds that gathered

The florescent pink flags for the marshals seems to be accepted now although waving them furiously sometimes has little effect in marking the end of an effort, and so this year we will be poking drivers and navies with a sharpened-pointy end to signal the stop.

As with last year, we will be reserving a limited number of places for brand new clubs so I encourage you guys to get organized early. This was developed to allow new clubs to have a go while still allowing every opportunity for our loyal participants.

The cut off date for applications this year is Friday the 12th of October. And as with last year there will be no alterations to the competition teams after the Wednesday prior the event.

In the not to distant future I will be making the forms and Rules and Regs ect. available on the website or you can request paper versions to be posted.

Comments are most welcome and can be directed to the Trials Manager or by phone or mail with all the details provided on the website. All correspondence will be presented to the Trials committee for consideration.

Anyone wanting to be placed on the email list can let me know thru Outers or if there are any changes to contacts or team managers from last year.



Wendy Eadon
Event Secretary

[Silvamav]

Miss Wendy

Can you please confirm the dates for the Trials?

[Miss Wendy]

The Trials are always on the first W/E in November, so this year its the 3rd and the 4th
Cheers.

[fatmanjt]

I competed in 4 nissan trials between 2000 and 2005, missed one somewhere there. Used to have a really good time at the trials, from the driving to catching up with mates we had a ball.
The reasons that myself and plenty of mates no longer attend is due to a couple of main reasons 1)Last trials I entered, now I know there is always going to be delays and such, but to wait 4 hours to drive an event no longer becomes fun. I know there a lot of cars to get through and the like but organisation and recovery times never seem to improve.
2)After a long day of sitting around waiting to drive etc, there is nothing better than catching up with others, having a beer etc. But to be warned at 9:30 at night to keep it down by an official who was trying to sleep at another camp.(because he was up early) we all were as well. Music was turned down to keep the peace but come 10:30 was confronted by same official who threatened to eject us from the competition if noise was not stopped immediately. Now Im not going to say we are all angels and people were not enjoying themselves etc, but come on, 9:30 at night?
Aren't these weekends (Nissan trials - once a year) designed for the reasons of top 4wd competition, mixed with a good time to catch up with others. Or am I wrong????
Anyway thats mine and a few other previous attendees opinion, for what its worth.
But to Wendy I appreciate the time and effort yourself and the club put in to the event. Good luck with it.

[Miss Wendy]

I know the waiting time seems long. We are open to suggestion on this topic. We start all four events at the same time and where there are extended delays due to a difficult recovery will steer you onto another event if possible. Last year (not including the helicoptor incident (best regards)) I received feedback that all and all things were percieved as 'better'. We have a team of NPC guys working on recoveries also and I had them on Wombats with me and they did an awsome job.
I was at TuffTruck this year spent six hours there on one day and only saw mabye a third of the trucks go thru. As I say, I don't know an answer that will play fair with all the Clubs, all the cometitors and all the classes.

As for the official... get a name next time, we can maybe do something, that is a bit harsh. We purposely camp down near the front gate so we can escape a bit of the 'unwinding' and 'catching up', and certainly don't discourage this tradition.
i am sorry we don't see you on the events anymore and hope to catch you in the spectator crowd cheering on the many competitors that will still put up with all of this stuff.

Cheers.

[CruiserPatrol]

Hi Miss Wendy, I attended the trials last year as a spectator and am looking forward to competeing this year.
I have heard a rumour that some of the classes are changing this year. Can you confirm this? And if so what are they?
Have you looked into running clubs on the same tracks in the same group but not nessearily one after the other, as last year it was impossible to support all our cars as they would be running at exactly the same time on but different tracks?
Thanks Dave

[A1]

If ANY clubs out there are short on a vehicle and driver and NAvi please contact me as I want to compete in as many events as possible ...would be great if you also have the invite's or how ever it works for the other comps such as woodpecker / willowglen etc .......obviously I would pay a membership fee to ba able to be part of the club ......however ....I dont think I would be a regular on club trips as my rig is a registered trailer queen .......


There may be a few issues regarding engineering if its required but I could .....go down that avenue if it is required .......

cheers



Sorry for the Hijack MISS WENDY


Dan

[Miss Wendy]

Hi Miss Wendy, I attended the trials last year as a spectator and am looking forward to competeing this year.
I have heard a rumour that some of the classes are changing this year. Can you confirm this? And if so what are they?
Have you looked into running clubs on the same tracks in the same group but not nessearily one after the other, as last year it was impossible to support all our cars as they would be running at exactly the same time on but different tracks?
Thanks Dave

Yeah, I know its difficult. But the problem is some tracks get harder some get easier. It just seems fairer to spread the teams over the tracks. Wouldn't be good in some cases to be Open and have to follow a whole team of Outlaws around getting lost in the holes those big tyres can leave.
Thanks for the suggestion tho and keep them coming as we do discuss these.

[thunder]

miss wendy..
would it be possible to let all 4 cars from 1 club go 1 after the other on each event..this was asked a few years ago and was told NO as it may disadvantage some cars as the track changes over the day.

if that is the only reason could a form be sent to all clubs that are invited this year.do you want to all run together or 1 on each track.
we at bong bong would like to see all our cars run
cheers steve

[Miss Wendy]

miss wendy..
would it be possible to let all 4 cars from 1 club go 1 after the other on each event..this was asked a few years ago and was told NO as it may disadvantage some cars as the track changes over the day.

if that is the only reason could a form be sent to all clubs that are invited this year.do you want to all run together or 1 on each track.
we at bong bong would like to see all our cars run
cheers steve

I will take it to the committee meeting for discussion. Thats about all I can say for now.
Thanks Steve

[okz00k]

What about personal accident insurance for the competitors, marshals and officials?

[CruiserPatrol]

Hi Miss Wendy, I attended the trials last year as a spectator and am looking forward to competeing this year.
I have heard a rumour that some of the classes are changing this year. Can you confirm this? And if so what are they?
Have you looked into running clubs on the same tracks in the same group but not nessearily one after the other, as last year it was impossible to support all our cars as they would be running at exactly the same time on but different tracks?
Thanks Dave

Yeah, I know its difficult. But the problem is some tracks get harder some get easier. It just seems fairer to spread the teams over the tracks. Wouldn't be good in some cases to be Open and have to follow a whole team of Outlaws around getting lost in the holes those big tyres can leave.
Thanks for the suggestion tho and keep them coming as we do discuss these.

Hi again Miss Wendy,
Thanks for your reply. I was wondering though, isn't someone always following outlaws around anyway?
e.g. If you are an open vehicle competing on track one, next you move to track two, arnn't you most probably going to be following the outlaw vehicle that competed last on that track.

A possible suggestion is to have say 4 clubs travelling in each group. On track 1 the vehicles of group A compete in order of their vehicle category, (Standard through to outlaw) so each team member is not actually competing directly after one another, but they are on the same track, so club supporters are more likely to see the majority of their team compete.

I hope this makes sense...maybe the committee would be willing to discuss this.
But I also understand that this setup may be not possible. Just an idea.

Ta

[Nelso]

miss wendy..
would it be possible to let all 4 cars from 1 club go 1 after the other on each event..this was asked a few years ago and was told NO as it may disadvantage some cars as the track changes over the day.

if that is the only reason could a form be sent to all clubs that are invited this year.do you want to all run together or 1 on each track.
we at bong bong would like to see all our cars run
cheers steve

This topic is often discussed around the campfire and most people I have talked to seam to prefer this option. The other idea that gets thrown up is for each club to nominate a couple of experienced members to participate in recoveries of their clubs vehicles (which can be done if the club runs one after the other). Many competitors have complained about the way their cars were recovered in the past and would like someone they know and trust involved in the recovery of their pride and joy. I understand there are issues with level of expertise, but if they have gone through the driver training and the club has nominated them, there is an understanding that they have the skill and knowledge to perform recoveries safely. Ultimately there will still be a recovery supervisor to step in if something unsafe is about to be undertaken.

It's only a bit of feedback that is intended to offer ideas not a criticism of the way the trials are currently run.

[thunder]

last year my spotter got out and ran the show for my car to be recovered.

they asked(tlcc)us for our opinion.

[troy gill]

hi wendy with out consulting the rest of my club members i would like to see all of our club run together as you can then watch them compete but better than that when you are in a long line up you only need to leave one person to look after 4 cars instead of 1 person for each car thus giving the competitors more time to see the event and not spend the entire day trying to cover all 4 courses to suport your mates

[MD4x4]

Hi Wendy,

I agree with Troy. He puts forward a good point regarding only one person needing to move the cars. As far as the rest of our club goes it is something we have talked about before.

Regards

MD

[ET4Runner]

last year my spotter got out and ran the show for my car to be recovered.

they asked(tlcc)us for our opinion.

Same with the car I was navi in; they asked me a couple of times about which way we preferred the recovery to go, and ideas etc. The consultation was quite good I thought. I think the recoveries were better last year than previous few years, just that the actual recovery itself was sometines more difficult. Most of the TLCC guys are pretty good at it, and will listen if approached the right way

As to the queues/running order, I'm in two minds. Sure it would be great to follow the team around, but I think spectators like to see a variety of clubs & vehicles having a go. From a driving point of view, your whole team could be disadvantaged by competing together as a group.

Let's say Event 4 is the hardest on the day, tough, chewed out etc. Your team is the last 4 competing on Event 1. Your go to 2 and then 3. By the time you get to Event 4, every other team has been through it, and you have ALL 4 to get through. This opposed to the current system where probably one vehicle gets the disadvantage.

This has been debated the last couple of years, and nobody has the perfect answer. I say well done to Miss Wendy & NPC as it's a tough gig.

[Miss Wendy]

What about personal accident insurance for the competitors, marshals and officials?

The Nissan Club is fully cover insurance wise. The 'workers' on the event are covered under the clubs insurance and we have event insurance updated annually.
Cheers

[sufolla]

What about personal accident insurance for the competitors, marshals and officials?

The Nissan Club is fully cover insurance wise. The 'workers' on the event are covered under the clubs insurance and we have event insurance updated annually.
Cheers

So Wendy, are you saying that the competitors are covered?
I think that is what he's asking

[Pal]

Go and get your own personal accident cover, that covers you 24 /7 for YOUR lifestyle and expenses.

If you cant afford to do that, dont crash!

.

[Madmac]

i thought last years trials were pretty well organised, the quees at most events moved fairly quickly. im still not a fan of the depth of the mud event. the mud run has caused more damge to my rig than all the other events, mainly alternators, radiator and seals. i think a lot of people arent real keen on the mud event. i like the idea of all 4 cars from each club running together.

could you possibly post up the different vehicle classes and what mods are going to be allowed for each class, im sort of building mine to last years classes. will there be any changes to vehicle classes?

[Tazz]

What about personal accident insurance for the competitors, marshals and officials?

The Nissan Club is fully cover insurance wise. The 'workers' on the event are covered under the clubs insurance and we have event insurance updated annually.
Cheers

So Wendy, are you saying that the competitors are covered?
I think that is what he's asking

On this, any one know how the competitor that got hit by the tree last year went?
Did he end up all good, and did nissan trials insurance cover his med costs?

[dirty harry]

he spent alot of time off work and hasn't seen 1 cent from any insurance.
he now has to chase the guy's green slip insurance

[Screwy]

geez thats heavy.....

im interested in the level of cover as well, i might yet have my new rig built for it if i can scrape together the funds

screwy

[A1]

What vehicle regs are needed ....ie Rego .....engineers cert ......insurance etc etc .........

is there a web site to check all this out or nay other info ......classes etc




Opologise is any of the above have been posted in previous threads .......but please re-cap


Dan

[ann]

What vehicle regs are needed ....ie Rego .....engineers cert ......insurance etc etc ........

Dan

registration, insurance (at least third party property (not green slip)), your licence and your navis licence.

[thunder]

when will the forms be on the nissan site to download.
Our club will hold there comp meeting at the end of this month

[A1]

What vehicle regs are needed ....ie Rego .....engineers cert ......insurance etc etc ........

Dan

registration, insurance (at least third party property (not green slip)), your licence and your navis licence.

Thanks Ann



I sussed out the rules last night ......


Dan

[2THDR100]

he spent alot of time off work and hasn't seen 1 cent from any insurance.
he now has to chase the guy's green slip insurance

He is chasing the drivers' CTP (green slip) insurance because that is the appropriate course of action.

Da Prez

[Miss Wendy]

when will the forms be on the nissan site to download.
Our club will hold there comp meeting at the end of this month

Keep an eye out on the website www.nissanpatrolclub.org they should show in the next few days.
Cheers