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found something interesting (lsd's)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:00 pm
by DR Frankenstine
60 series lsd and 80 series lsd are both the same hemisphere's. To fit an 80's into a 60's housing you need to have the bearing journells machined down to suit the 60's carrier bearings ( we all knew that I know). BUT !!!
Upon pulling the two centres apart to re-shim and tighten the spring I found the 60 series one had a lot thicker guage spring in it and I mean a lot. The 80 series spring was the same physical size and length but a lot thinner guage spring. When I rang toyota they gave me the same part numbers. anyone else noticed this before??

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:17 pm
by dow50r
franko
i hope u didnt go to all the bother of machining the housing, when an 80 bearing is all you need....it was only a dimension change from imperial to metric, and double the price bearings....id say the spring has been swapped earlier for a thicker aftermarket one....spacing it also does wonders, but the more you tension it, the faster it will wear...and it will never lock on ya...
Andrew

60

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:14 pm
by DR Frankenstine
dow50r wrote:franko
i hope u didnt go to all the bother of machining the housing, when an 80 bearing is all you need....it was only a dimension change from imperial to metric, and double the price bearings....id say the spring has been swapped earlier for a thicker aftermarket one....spacing it also does wonders, but the more you tension it, the faster it will wear...and it will never lock on ya...
Andrew
I cross referenced the bearings and they said I couldn't use the 80 series bearing in a 60 series housing. The outer cone diameter is .02mm larger in the 80 bearing. It only cost me $30 to get the machining done and the bearings were only $25 each so not to bad. I don't expect the LSD to lock, I just want it to take a bit more preasure before it slips.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:00 am
by goannaoffroad
I've been using 80's and HZJ75 hemisphere's in 40's 55's 60's 75's diff's to turn them into lsd's for years using the 50mm bearings without any problems.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:27 am
by bj on roids
Or you can get the complete 80 rear and bolt it right into the 40 housing, no biggy :lol:

Re: 60

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:19 pm
by dow50r
[/quote]I cross referenced the bearings and they said I couldn't use the 80 series bearing in a 60 series housing. The outer cone diameter is .02mm larger in the 80 bearing. It only cost me $30 to get the machining done and the bearings were only $25 each so not to bad. I don't expect the LSD to lock, I just want it to take a bit more preasure before it slips.[/quote]

Thats right, but both std 60 lsd and 80 lsd bearings have thesame od dimension and thickness...only the inner diameter was changed between the models. There is a good side to what you have done...the earlier bearings are off the shelf and $20 opposed to the 80 series specific size bearings at $100 a set

Re: 60

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:04 pm
by midi73
dow50r wrote:
I cross referenced the bearings and they said I couldn't use the 80 series bearing in a 60 series housing. The outer cone diameter is .02mm larger in the 80 bearing. It only cost me $30 to get the machining done and the bearings were only $25 each so not to bad. I don't expect the LSD to lock, I just want it to take a bit more preasure before it slips.[/quote]

Thats right, but both std 60 lsd and 80 lsd bearings have thesame od dimension and thickness...only the inner diameter was changed between the models. There is a good side to what you have done...the earlier bearings are off the shelf and $20 opposed to the 80 series specific size bearings at $100 a set[/quote]

Yep. I back this. I have an 80 series locker with 80 series bearings in a 60 series housing.
Dave.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:26 pm
by Roktruk
Yup, i fitted the 60 series ARB locker into the rear of the 80 for the cost of the bearings, same OD, different ID.