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Post by sanger »

Not sure if thats what they are called but they are missing off the diff i bought from the wrecker on passenger side nuckle.

Can i just put a seal and bearing kit in it and put it back togehter without this shim or will this create more problems.

I am puttin 85 hilux diffs under my suzuki.

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Post by dogbreath_48 »

Without them your axel/seal probably won't line up properly, probably along with other problems. It's not a simple matter of getting the right shims and whacking them in either, i don't believe.

Getting the shims won't be a problem, but i think specialist tools are required to shim the swivel housing properly...
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Post by Sic Lux »

Yeah need a pull scale to set the load on them
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Post by dogbreath_48 »

Sic Lux wrote:Yeah need a pull scale to set the load on them
I thought there was also some sort of alignment tool to set the vertical position of the housing?
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Post by Sic Lux »

Yeah i'll look it up soon about setting the height
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Post by dogbreath_48 »

Sic Lux wrote:Yeah i'll look it up soon about setting the height
I CBF getting my manual out. Will probably say "Use SST #### to set shims, then use SST #### to measure preload"

Edit: looked at my manual, way too involved to type up tonight - theres mathematical formulae and everything. Maybe someone has a scan?
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Post by sanger »

Cheers fellas just trying to figure out my next move.
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Post by Z()LTAN »

dogbreath_48 wrote:
Sic Lux wrote:Yeah i'll look it up soon about setting the height
I CBF getting my manual out. Will probably say "Use SST #### to set shims, then use SST #### to measure preload"

Edit: looked at my manual, way too involved to type up tonight - theres mathematical formulae and everything. Maybe someone has a scan?
what book are you talking about may i ask?
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Post by Sic Lux »

Workshop manual :idea: :idea:
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Post by Z()LTAN »

the only workshop manual i have is a Greggory's and its poo... way too vague...

im looking for a better one... say a Toyota genuine total handbook? with part numbers :)
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Post by sanger »

does anyone in sydney have the tool needed that they would be willing to hire out. :oops:
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Post by Z()LTAN »

im sure its not as complected as they say, ive done many and never worried about crap like that...

I just put the same shims in the top as the bottom...

You cant really over Preload the bearing by removing a 1/2 thou shim..
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Post by sanger »

Z()LTAN wrote:im sure its not as complected as they say, ive done many and never worried about crap like that...

I just put the same shims in the top as the bottom...

You cant really over Preload the bearing by removing a 1/2 thou shim..
Well this is what i was going to do but just wanted to see what affects it may have in the long run.

Would like to do it properly with correct tool but if i cant get a hold of one ill just have to slap it together and hope.
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Post by Rilux »

Uhh? I always thought to shim, you add shims until the play is gone, but so its not tight...

I've always done it that way? Even on trucks?
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Post by ausyota »

Rilux wrote:Uhh? I always thought to shim, you add shims until the play is gone, but so its not tight...

I've always done it that way? Even on trucks?
Yeah but do you add them top or bottom? :D
Here is some info I found a while back.
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Post by dogbreath_48 »

Z()LTAN wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Sic Lux wrote:Yeah i'll look it up soon about setting the height
I CBF getting my manual out. Will probably say "Use SST #### to set shims, then use SST #### to measure preload"

Edit: looked at my manual, way too involved to type up tonight - theres mathematical formulae and everything. Maybe someone has a scan?
what book are you talking about may i ask?
Genuine workshop manual.
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Post by bj on roids »

a fish scale can be used to test load
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Post by Gribble »

You dont need special tools or any "SST" crap. Just play around with shim adjustment until there is a little bit of drag in the bearings when you swing the knuckle from side to side.

Also remember to keep the shim thickness the same for top and bottom, this will align the shaft with the seal, unless your housing is bent.
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Post by sanger »

Cheers Gribs but i got a price from the local 4wd shop to shim the diff and they quoted me $70 so that aint too bad in my opinion.
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Post by Gribble »

sanger wrote:Cheers Gribs but i got a price from the local 4wd shop to shim the diff and they quoted me $70 so that aint too bad in my opinion.
Wuss. :finger:
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:oops: :finger:
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