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adjusting fuel td42
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:29 pm
by GQSWB42td
Gday all just wondering if any one can provide any imformation on adusting the fuel on td42 Patrol. Photos would be appreicated. I need to turn the fuel down on a mate patrol that he just brought. It blow excessive smoke on hills. The person he brought it from fuel turned up after a full engine rebulid. Thanks in advance.
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:04 pm
by ozy1
my advise is to take it to a diesel mech and get it done and double checked, just for peice of mind,
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:19 am
by Mario
I.P. Inline or rotative? I can show you rotative !!
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:39 am
by brettsGQ
pics and info on rotative pump adjustment would be great
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:02 pm
by GQSWB42td
x2 would be great if you can. thanks
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:09 pm
by MUD CLUB
x3 need more fuel to keep up
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:28 pm
by Mario
Tomorrow I´ll be playing with fuel delivery on my IP since we have an upcoming trail. I promise I´ll take some pics and document the process.
Bear with me some more...
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:39 pm
by GQSWB42td
thanks for help
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:34 am
by Mario
OK guys, sorry for having you waiting for so long. This morning I gave my TD42 a bigger diesel gulp for the weekend. This is what I do:
First, the tools you'll need.
One 13mm wrench
One 17mm socket
One small flat screwdriver
A ratchet and a few extensions
A socket U joint
On top of the IP (injection pump) locate this 17mm bolt which attaches the return line and loosen it. Be careful, this could be real tight if it's a long time since it was last removed. You can break the bolt or loose a washer. Loose it using the U joint. you need to move the return line out of hte way to access the fuel bolt.
Once again, as you remove the bolt, be careful you loose the washers. There's one on top and one below the return line
In this last pic you see the below washer and the fuel bolt. Mine obviously has no factory seal. Factory seal looks like this.
The bolt on the pic is the one that limits the travel of the IP. It's sort of a governor. But let's get back to the bolt we need (want) to adjust.
Loose the locking nut using the 13mm wrench
And then adjust the bolt. Clockwise to increase fuel. Just a 1/4 turn increases a lot of fuel. Also your idle speed will go up and idle with AC on will greatly increase. You´ll have to adjust this also.
Once adjusted, tighten the locking nut and put it all back together reversing the order.
Hope this helps. Good luck. If I can help you further, just ask.
P.D. Get a reliable pyrometer before playing with your fuel and don't push it past 1250 degrees F.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:39 pm
by naif
can you please explain how to adjust the idle?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:26 pm
by azzad
in the 2nd pick you can see the idle adjustment screw.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:02 pm
by Mavtd
I think it has to be said; Mario, you're the man
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:52 pm
by GQSWB42td
thanks for your mario it is really appreicated.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:16 am
by MUD CLUB
U champion will be playing with pump this week then test on weekend thanks again
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:29 pm
by Mario
GQSWB42td wrote:thanks for your mario it is really appreicated.
Anytime buddies. I have learned a lot here. It was about time to give something back to the forum.
Cheers
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:30 am
by xenith
can do this with out taking off the fuel lines have done heaps that way
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 am
by Mario
xenith wrote:can do this with out taking off the fuel lines have done heaps that way
Can you please document it ? Could save some time here ... !
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:55 pm
by coxy321
xenith wrote:can do this with out taking off the fuel lines have done heaps that way
I thought the same thing....
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:22 am
by money_killer
so in the 2nd last pic is that where the pump screw was standard. then the last pic is with it turned up 1/4 of a turn.
only asking this cause i got to turn back a pump and it looks like mine has been turned up a 1/4 of a turn
thanks aaron
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:33 am
by Mario
money_killer wrote:so in the 2nd last pic is that where the pump screw was standard. then the last pic is with it turned up 1/4 of a turn.
only asking this cause i got to turn back a pump and it looks like mine has been turned up a 1/4 of a turn
thanks aaron
I always do 1/4 turns (back and forth). Try that. 1/4 should be OK, but you need a pyrometer to check EGTs.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:24 am
by chunks
Is there anything different on a newer TD42? Mine is a 7/06, I will be fitting an exhaust, pyro and boost tee soon and want to have a crack at winding the fuel up myself.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:42 pm
by macneil
does turning the fuel up on a na td42 give it much more
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:25 pm
by money_killer
macneil wrote:does turning the fuel up on a na td42 give it much more
shit yes. but if u dont know wat ur doing things can melt.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:37 pm
by macneil
yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:50 pm
by money_killer
macneil wrote:yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
i took mine for a drive when it was would up for the turbo (3/4 turn) it hooked rev to 4k quick and easy reved to 4.5k no prob lots of black smoke but lol.
so wound it back down to (1/4 turn) cause i took the turbo off
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:41 pm
by benny4x4
money_killer wrote:macneil wrote:yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
i took mine for a drive when it was would up for the turbo (3/4 turn) it hooked rev to 4k quick and easy reved to 4.5k no prob lots of black smoke but lol.
so wound it back down to (1/4 turn) cause i took the turbo off
Do you have pictures too do this with a anaroid fitted
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:26 am
by money_killer
benny4x4 wrote:money_killer wrote:macneil wrote:yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
i took mine for a drive when it was would up for the turbo (3/4 turn) it hooked rev to 4k quick and easy reved to 4.5k no prob lots of black smoke but lol.
so wound it back down to (1/4 turn) cause i took the turbo off
Do you have pictures too do this with a anaroid fitted
i dont even know wat a "anaroid" is
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:08 am
by coxy321
Its a boost compensator.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:13 am
by garth
anaroid lets the second lot of fuel in at the set (adjustable) boost pressure.
NOTE:
(more = clockwise) 1/4 turn on fuel adjustment is shit loads more for a 12mm plunger pump! .....so if you have no pyro fitted be careful
good luck
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:12 pm
by love ke70
EGT on a NA TD42 gets very hot very fast with the fuel turned up.
when i had my turbo off, just running standard manifold and first length of pipe under the cab, didnt knock fuel back (only see 430* when turbo'd, even on long pulls with LPG, no LPG when NA) and it nearly hit 730* before i lost my bottle and pulled the boot out of it
and that wasnt a very long hill, so yes, be very careful upping fuel on an NA motor, more so than turbod