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adjusting fuel td42

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:29 pm
by GQSWB42td
Gday all just wondering if any one can provide any imformation on adusting the fuel on td42 Patrol. Photos would be appreicated. I need to turn the fuel down on a mate patrol that he just brought. It blow excessive smoke on hills. The person he brought it from fuel turned up after a full engine rebulid. Thanks in advance.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:04 pm
by ozy1
my advise is to take it to a diesel mech and get it done and double checked, just for peice of mind,

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:19 am
by Mario
I.P. Inline or rotative? I can show you rotative !!

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:39 am
by brettsGQ
pics and info on rotative pump adjustment would be great

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:02 pm
by GQSWB42td
x2 would be great if you can. thanks

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:09 pm
by MUD CLUB
x3 need more fuel to keep up

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:28 pm
by Mario
Tomorrow I´ll be playing with fuel delivery on my IP since we have an upcoming trail. I promise I´ll take some pics and document the process.
Bear with me some more...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:39 pm
by GQSWB42td
thanks for help

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:34 am
by Mario
OK guys, sorry for having you waiting for so long. This morning I gave my TD42 a bigger diesel gulp for the weekend. This is what I do:

First, the tools you'll need.

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One 13mm wrench
One 17mm socket
One small flat screwdriver
A ratchet and a few extensions
A socket U joint

On top of the IP (injection pump) locate this 17mm bolt which attaches the return line and loosen it. Be careful, this could be real tight if it's a long time since it was last removed. You can break the bolt or loose a washer. Loose it using the U joint. you need to move the return line out of hte way to access the fuel bolt.

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Once again, as you remove the bolt, be careful you loose the washers. There's one on top and one below the return line

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In this last pic you see the below washer and the fuel bolt. Mine obviously has no factory seal. Factory seal looks like this.

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The bolt on the pic is the one that limits the travel of the IP. It's sort of a governor. But let's get back to the bolt we need (want) to adjust.

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Loose the locking nut using the 13mm wrench

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And then adjust the bolt. Clockwise to increase fuel. Just a 1/4 turn increases a lot of fuel. Also your idle speed will go up and idle with AC on will greatly increase. You´ll have to adjust this also.

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Once adjusted, tighten the locking nut and put it all back together reversing the order.

Hope this helps. Good luck. If I can help you further, just ask.

P.D. Get a reliable pyrometer before playing with your fuel and don't push it past 1250 degrees F.

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:39 pm
by naif
can you please explain how to adjust the idle?

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:26 pm
by azzad
in the 2nd pick you can see the idle adjustment screw.

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:02 pm
by Mavtd
I think it has to be said; Mario, you're the man :armsup:

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:52 pm
by GQSWB42td
thanks for your mario it is really appreicated.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:16 am
by MUD CLUB
U champion will be playing with pump this week then test on weekend thanks again

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:29 pm
by Mario
GQSWB42td wrote:thanks for your mario it is really appreicated.
Anytime buddies. I have learned a lot here. It was about time to give something back to the forum.

Cheers ;)

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:30 am
by xenith
can do this with out taking off the fuel lines have done heaps that way

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 am
by Mario
xenith wrote:can do this with out taking off the fuel lines have done heaps that way
Can you please document it ? Could save some time here ... !

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:55 pm
by coxy321
xenith wrote:can do this with out taking off the fuel lines have done heaps that way
I thought the same thing....

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:22 am
by money_killer
so in the 2nd last pic is that where the pump screw was standard. then the last pic is with it turned up 1/4 of a turn.


only asking this cause i got to turn back a pump and it looks like mine has been turned up a 1/4 of a turn

thanks aaron

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:33 am
by Mario
money_killer wrote:so in the 2nd last pic is that where the pump screw was standard. then the last pic is with it turned up 1/4 of a turn.


only asking this cause i got to turn back a pump and it looks like mine has been turned up a 1/4 of a turn

thanks aaron
I always do 1/4 turns (back and forth). Try that. 1/4 should be OK, but you need a pyrometer to check EGTs.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:24 am
by chunks
Is there anything different on a newer TD42? Mine is a 7/06, I will be fitting an exhaust, pyro and boost tee soon and want to have a crack at winding the fuel up myself.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:42 pm
by macneil
does turning the fuel up on a na td42 give it much more

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:25 pm
by money_killer
macneil wrote:does turning the fuel up on a na td42 give it much more
shit yes. but if u dont know wat ur doing things can melt.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:37 pm
by macneil
yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:50 pm
by money_killer
macneil wrote:yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
i took mine for a drive when it was would up for the turbo (3/4 turn) it hooked rev to 4k quick and easy reved to 4.5k no prob lots of black smoke but lol.

so wound it back down to (1/4 turn) cause i took the turbo off

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:41 pm
by benny4x4
money_killer wrote:
macneil wrote:yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
i took mine for a drive when it was would up for the turbo (3/4 turn) it hooked rev to 4k quick and easy reved to 4.5k no prob lots of black smoke but lol.

so wound it back down to (1/4 turn) cause i took the turbo off
Do you have pictures too do this with a anaroid fitted

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:26 am
by money_killer
benny4x4 wrote:
money_killer wrote:
macneil wrote:yes i have a few diesel mechanic mates and they said the 1/4 turn trick i was just wondering how much it would give.. mine doesnt blow any smoke atm so might turn it up this weekend!
i took mine for a drive when it was would up for the turbo (3/4 turn) it hooked rev to 4k quick and easy reved to 4.5k no prob lots of black smoke but lol.

so wound it back down to (1/4 turn) cause i took the turbo off
Do you have pictures too do this with a anaroid fitted
i dont even know wat a "anaroid" is :oops:

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:08 am
by coxy321
Its a boost compensator.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:13 am
by garth
anaroid lets the second lot of fuel in at the set (adjustable) boost pressure.

NOTE:
(more = clockwise) 1/4 turn on fuel adjustment is shit loads more for a 12mm plunger pump! .....so if you have no pyro fitted be careful

good luck

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:12 pm
by love ke70
EGT on a NA TD42 gets very hot very fast with the fuel turned up.

when i had my turbo off, just running standard manifold and first length of pipe under the cab, didnt knock fuel back (only see 430* when turbo'd, even on long pulls with LPG, no LPG when NA) and it nearly hit 730* before i lost my bottle and pulled the boot out of it :P

and that wasnt a very long hill, so yes, be very careful upping fuel on an NA motor, more so than turbod