Outer Limits 4x4 Board

just wondering i just recently bought my ferozsa and this saite has been a godsend.
ive read on here that 30" tyres cant fit under a stock feroza ?
so how do i know if mine is stock or not considering it has 30" tyres on it


the shocks at the rear look like they have been changed.
from what i can tell on it is written
pedders gas sports ryder
gsr9074 a 28 my983

here are some pictures of the suspension.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/jabboo/feroza/

also how do i know if the body has been lifted?

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jabboo

It appears to be standard height. The rear spring is reasonably flat (actually could be ready for a change), and the front seems to be stock shocks.

Body Lift - Who's got a photo of the body mounts, both stock and then lifted. This would be easier then trying to explain.

Going by your rear shockers it's a post '93 model- but what year is it exactly? You've only got two leafs in your rear springs, I know the later models had less, but I'm sure mine's got at least four (?)

The shackles look to be standard length.

I thought I read on WARFS that 30" tyres are supposed to fit with no lift? It would also depend on the width and brand of tyres as they're not all the same.

Have you got any side on pics of the whole vehicle?

its a 95 model sx2

tyres is
30x9.5xr15
general grabber AT

side on photo is below
where do i look to see if the body is lifted?


this is the page i read that said 30x9.5 whould not fit under standard feroza.
http://www.geocities.com/davefogwill/Feroza_mods.html

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jabboo

they look small for 30"s - but if thats whats written on em i guess thats what u got.

btw - nice looking rig.

better soon get it dirtier tho!

Yes, very nice. I like your spare wheel cover- my vinyl one's looking pretty sad.

Have a look underneath the side of your Feroza (under the door) and you'll see where the body bolts onto the chassis. There are normally rubber spacers in between that are around 20mm roughly in height. If yours are higher then it's been lifted.

I agree the tyres do look small for 30"?

I'll attach a pic of mine (I'm one of only a few on here with stock suspension ) for a comparison. I haven't got a side shot unfortunately, but my tyres are only 235/70R15 (~ 28").

I just checked the length of the body spacers- about 20mm is right. I'll attach a pic of the one just infront of the rear driver's side wheel.

I'll also attach a pic of my rear spring for a comparison!

hmmmm .. why does mine only have one leaf and yours has like 5 ?

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jabboo

I don't know!

Mine's a '92 model and I know over the years Daihatsu reduced the number of leaves to improve the ride comfort, BUT yours must have a very plush ride!!! I wouldn't want the rear of mine any softer.

murcod wrote:Yes, very nice. I like your spare wheel cover- my vinyl one's looking pretty sad.

Just off topic a bit, but what I have donbe to the spare wheel was to turn the mounting upside down. I found this gave better vision out the rear, brings the weight lower a bit, and find its easier to remove the spare cause it sits at an ange and can be held in place.

Just a thing did, looks good IMO..

I'll look into that Heath. The standard size spare blocks a fair bit of the rear view- let alone if you've got larger tyres.

now THATS a great idea! i'll be lookin into that as well.. jus to see how it looks... how interesting

thank you.... thank you... no please that's enough... oh okay then a little more...


I really should get some photos of my car......

I run 30 x 9.5 BFG muddies.... and the spare looks good where it is.....

Yes, come on pics of the rear wheel carrier!

i dont think diahatsu came out with a 1 leaf + overload leaf id say the previous owner has taken leaves out lookin for more flex

i would put more leaves in it or u will fark the springs very quickly

btw i run diahatsu leaves in the rear of my zook i only took 1 leaf out to make it a 3 leaf pack +overload leaf

how much would that cost ?

where are u from?

id say you would have to get new leaf packs

in sydney
just a rough estimate cause i doubt id get it straight away

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jabboo

redzook wrote:i dont think diahatsu came out with a 1 leaf + overload leaf id say the previous owner has taken leaves out lookin for more flex

i would put more leaves in it or u will fark the springs very quickly

I was wondering that myself as the clamp (or whatever it's called) has been opened too.

Come on- some one else with a late model wide track go out and have a look under the back for jabboo and tell us how many leaves are normal...

The newer Feroza's only had like 1 leaf. They kept taking them out from the factory to soften the ride to meet consumer demand....pretty bad eh?

jabboo wrote:in sydney
just a rough estimate cause i doubt id get it straight away

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jabboo

I paid $300 for the set of 5pack custom springs.

Yeah funny thing happened to me yesterday... with all this talk of leaf springs I had a look under my rig... Stock shocks front and back... and with the lift the thing has its a wonder they're still in one piece!!! Now looking at buying some ranchos or the like.

I noticed that Croz's 94 widetrack rig only has the 2 leaves also. I personally have Lovells 7 leaf packs in the rear and the comfort is quite good now that the extended shacles are on.

I'm also going to open the clamps on mine for a bit more flex and would imagine that the ride will soften up also. Will keep yu posted on that.

Cheers

so they only have 1 leaf?

bet you get a bit of axel rap

Yeah a bit of a worry if you ask me!!!

Later model Ferozas do indeed only have ONE leaf + a helper...pretty crap for carrying loads, but with half decent shocks and extended shackles, they give acceptable articulation...in fact better than some of the very expensive aftermarket kits. Remember that big spring lift DOESN'T necessarily mean good articulation!

As for fitting 30"s, they should fit no worries with stock suspension and wheels, paticularly if you wind up the torsion bars a tad. HOWEVER, once I went to 15 x 8 wheels, I had to remove my front mudflaps (useless b@rstards anyway!), or they rub at about 50% lock.

The other thing I found was that the likes of Monroe, Pedders, etc. shocks DON'T give as much trvel as stock shocks...better to turf 'em and get some proper long-travel units.

AJFeroza wrote:The other thing I found was that the likes of Monroe, Pedders, etc. shocks DON'T give as much trvel as stock shocks...better to turf 'em and get some proper long-travel units.

The Bilsteins I got for mine are actually at least 1" longer extended than my old factory shocks (in the rear). They weren't a special order or anything either- might be a case of you get what you pay for.