Transfer case questions . Bearings and found the noise maker

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:03 am

Hey,

I have diagnosed that i have a transfer case bearing/gear problem as it is noisy as with the transfer in N and going though the gearbox 1-5+R and it has more noise in 3-5 under load i presume and it sounds like it is the input gear/bearing. I was thinking about going for a gearset also (4.16,4.9s) but the 1L case does me for now.

would it be ok to do the cheap just do the input bearing or go the whole bearing kit through it ? i was considering getting the kit from the US (lowrange)

i have had a $ from bearings wholesalers of $311 ex for a kit inc a shaft? ((The transfer kit contains:- bearings, seals, gaskets, shaft, washers and nuts))

what shaft is this in there. if the input shaft, i have a spare 1.3 one here if that is ok to use.

** also is the late 1L box inc 4wd light the same bearing kit as the 1.3 gear case..

Thanks

Nic

Post by **bazooked** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:44 am

the shaft u replace from memory is the idler shaft, has a pair of needle roller bearings running on it this is 99% of the cause for noisy transfers, get a bearing kit with shaft and do the whole lot, make sure its got the thrust washers in the kit aswell for that shaft. last time i got a price from here was around the 300 buk mark, prpbably alot cheaper overseas.

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:30 am

anyone know which one on here? i was going to try get a shaft by itself mayb from the dealer and get bearing kit from the US. price pending.

also is the 1L case kit as the 1.3 kit?

Thanks

Nic

Post by **Red_Zook** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:12 pm

shaft is #10 nic #10!!! do i get a prize???

oh and 1ltr and 1.3 are near identical bar difrent gear sets..!!!!

Post by **lay80n** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:12 pm

Shaft number 10. Last time i built a T-case, it was $55 genuine from suzuki.

Layto....

Post by **Red_Zook** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:13 pm

lay80n wrote:Shaft number 10. Last time i built a T-case, it was $55 genuine from suzuki.

Layto....

i win!!!

Post by **BenT** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:40 pm

nicbeer wrote:also is the 1L case kit as the 1.3 kit?

Only the `84 410 kit would be the same as 413. The earlier non 4wd light cases have a different gearset which has stub shafts on the end of the counter gear rather than an idler shaft.

Ben

Post by **NIK** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:55 pm

The rebuild kit from low range is $79US (I just ordered mine to go with the 6.5s) not sure what it would be to post it.
Nik

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:12 pm

Nik,

i can tell u that to post the kit from trail-gear was 140us to ship it and then 79 on top of it.

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 pm

is anything missing from the US lowrange kit as apposed to the local $300+ kits except the counter shaft as i have a price of $49 from the dealer for that.

Post by **NIK** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:36 am

$140US for postage that sucks Im paying $120US for rebuild kit and 6.5 gears!
Nik

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:31 pm

got a better price

thanks Sean.

for 50us to ship the kit. and i may buy the counter shaft and bearings local.

Is it needed to replace the shaft or only the bearing on the shaft?

Nic

Post by **Drew** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:31 pm

shaft too mate,
it will be pitted & worn out

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:01 pm

found the noise maker

the bearings feel ok on the main shafts.

would be it ok for to do it on the cheap and replace the bearings on this shaft and the shaft only? i was thinking of maybe doing the input bearing also as was noisy when in N also in gear so i would think this is the main cause.

i am looking at gears later btw so dont want to spend the big $$ on this one.

Post by **bazooked** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:19 pm

trouble is ya would of got a bit of metal contamination in ur oil, how long do ya want to keep the box for?

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:29 pm

long as i can i guess. from the plug with the magnet that came out it looks like it caught a lot of it. take a guess on 6m-year being fair.

one of the needle bearing is worn that i can see causing this wearing down.

oil was clean but as usual counldnt see any little fine bits in there. gears look ok also. i was going to flush out with oil/petrol as well.

Post by **Red_Zook** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:14 pm

common as!!!!
just weld a bit in there....
flap disc it back haha!!!

Post by **Offroad-Events** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:59 pm

Only thing you need the dealer for is the shaft, thrust washers and the needle bearings. All other bearings are industry standard sizes.
You'll need 1x 63/22, 1x 6306 and 3x 62/28 from your local bearing supply.

Post by **MART** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:00 pm

Nic , I have a shaft , bearings , thrust washers in my garage , you can have them for nil if there cheaper to buy than the freight from sydney , weighs about 2 kg , cheers Paul.

Post by **MART** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:20 pm

It's in the mail Nic , Cheers Paul.

Post by **nicbeer** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:35 pm

awesome service

thanks.

will check the bearings out and may grab new ones as well.

thanks again.

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