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What size shocks????
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:43 pm
by spzook
Just wanting to know if anyone knows what size shocks i need for my truck.
It is a 82 stockman ute with spoa and will have 2 inch extended shackles.
Dont see the piont in buying ones that are too short.
Cheers.
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:12 pm
by Danzo
have you got a high jack? or access to a forklift? or even an engine hoist?
if no then you might want to find something, or maybe someone on here has the excact same set up,
Get your car to full flex using one of these items, measure the total flex length of the shockie needed, and measure the total compression size aswell, This will give you a good Idea as to what the lengths are,
take the measurements to a suspension place and see if they can help.
No doubt though you might have to modify your shockie mounts-positions slightly to get a proper fit!
Lower bumpstops,,,
change the angle and height of rear top shock mounts. Many things can be done do accomadate shockies as you probably already know
If you already knew this then sorry for the ramble,
but not every SPOA is the same, and neither are the springs or shackles for that matter,
(jm2c)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:43 pm
by spzook
i spoke to 4WD1.com and they said that i could go a 2 inch extended shock and just make the bump stop longer to stop them from crushing at full squash.
has anyone else done anything different?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:14 pm
by NIK
I originaly used stock top mounts with the stock bottom mount on the spring plate that now sits above the springs instead of below it, it worked but not a good idea unless you limit uptravel. Then I went to 1-2" longer shocks with bottom mounts moved to top of diff. Now I ran hoops in the front and I recommend set your bumpstops first (dont invert your springs too much they dont last long). Then flex it to the bumpstop thats your collapsed height then measure the droop and thats the extended lenght.
Just my thoughts how I would do it again but I could be wrong its happened before.
Nik
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:19 pm
by Gwagensteve
Nik, sound advice, except I would always subtract 1" from your compressed length measured to the bumpstop to allow for compression of the stop in severe cases.
If the measurement from top mount to bottom mount is 15" with the axle on the bumpstop, then buy shocks with 14" of compressed length. This will ultimately save your shocks and mounts so it's a bit of useful insurance.
Steve.
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:24 pm
by spzook
thanks guys will try and get it on my mates hoist to get some measurements.
cheers.
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:26 pm
by Danzo
spzook wrote:i spoke to 4WD1.com and they said that i could go a 2 inch extended shock and just make the bump stop longer to stop them from crushing at full squash.
has anyone else done anything different?
Seriously a 2" longer shock.... I dont think so... I have a 2" spring lift with no other mods as yet( soon to do RUF)
and I have 2 1/2" longer shock that works great, hits the bump stop and I still get full flex( when the car is about to tip... springs are to hard ATM)
I seriously think you will have to change your top and opssibly your bottom shock mounts to make a good shockie work properly, maybe even modify your bump stop.
Maybe you should do a bit more research before you spend any $ on shocks from someone that hasent even seen your rig at full flex!
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:08 pm
by NIK
Gee I was close! Ive done it back to front I have hoops and shocks already and I was allowing 1"extra on the bump stop for hard compression.
Nik
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:35 am
by cjdeane10
Didnt the bible say that These Gabriel shocks 'bolt straight on' to the normal shock mounts?
part number 81147 (Back)
part number 81340 (Front)
I wasnt planning on modifying the shock mounts, and i have just ordered some of these...
When i flexed up and measured, they shouldperfect for my situation...
Pls Dont tell me i now need to modify the shock mounts?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:14 pm
by lay80n
cjdeane10 wrote:Didnt the bible say that These Gabriel shocks 'bolt straight on' to the normal shock mounts?
part number 81147 (Back)
part number 81340 (Front)
I wasnt planning on modifying the shock mounts, and i have just ordered some of these...
When i flexed up and measured, they shouldperfect for my situation...
Pls Dont tell me i now need to modify the shock mounts?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Without modifying the sierra standar mounts, you will not achive a great amount of flex over standard.
Layto....