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Insurance- what a deal

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:13 pm
by bundytunna
just got a quote from TCIS for insurance for my 4b
i told them that i had a 2" body lift 3" springs and 35" muddies and about 5k of mods
they sed yep no worries well insure ya
i got a market value of $10,900 (which is way higher than just car and aus 4wd and dga)
but the best bit is my premium
$350 per year
he told me that he would insure my car with the mods i have done to it
BTW a 3" spring lift on my car is illegal coz it exceeds the legal lift limit and 35" tyres also exceed the legal tyre increase limit 2" BL is fine tho
he sed there would be no probs with insurance if i had a prang
should i take the market value or should i hassle them for an agreed value
what is the pros and cons of market and agreed value

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:20 pm
by spazbot
are you over 25 ??
thats a damn good price
i was quaoted 4x that by them for my hilux
but then im under 25

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:21 pm
by bundytunna
its in my dads name
he sed odnt worry bout an engineers only if cops pull u aside

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:22 pm
by HeathGQ
get it in writing too....

Last I heard TCIS were sorting out the modified 4wd insurance issues they are having, by the sound of it they have fixed it.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:32 pm
by Andrew_C
My modified gq has always had insurance around the $1200 mark, then I turned 25 in December and now it's $516 and rating one. Im impressed, pity it took seven years and a couple of stacks to get it there.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:00 pm
by Ben
BTW a 3" spring lift on my car is illegal coz it exceeds the legal lift limit and 35" tyres also exceed the legal tyre increase limit 2" BL is fine tho he sed there would be no probs with insurance if i had a prang


If I were you I'd get the the fact that he is prepared to insure and pay out on an unroadworthy car in writing...because if you read the fine print, I guaranfu*kingtee that it says all mods must be roadworhy.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:05 pm
by HeathGQ
The purpose of specific Off-road insurance is to provide insurance for modified vehicles in off-road circumstances.

Agree - unroadworthy / illegal mods on-road, no deal, no pay out, you deal with it..... but 4wd insurance is just that..... or at least it should be.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:22 pm
by hottiemonster
is 3" suspension and 2" body lift legal in victoria?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:39 pm
by bundytunna
2" body lift is legal in bic
3" is prolly illegal on ur car hm
u r allowed to lift the vehcile 1/3 of the orig bumpstop clearance so most likely urs is illegal
i am getting the policy sent to me once i read that i wanna try and get sumin in writing that says they will insure my car with those mods

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:02 pm
by ozy1
i love NSW 6" springs are all legal, inurance, rego and engineered,

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:10 pm
by bundytunna
ozy1 wrote:i love NSW 6" springs are all legal, inurance, rego and engineered,
:shock:
bullshit
i thought nsw was bad as
i thought vic was preety good

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:14 pm
by hottiemonster
well my car is 2" suspension lift then :cool:

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:43 pm
by -Mick-
well my car is 2" suspension lift then


It'll sag to that anyway ;)

Wish I lived in NSW :roll:

Do TCIS have online quoting facility or by phone only? I can't insure under my old mans name cause he has a fugged up driving history :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:51 pm
by bogged
bundytunna wrote:its in my dads name
he sed odnt worry bout an engineers only if cops pull u aside


Bollocks...

As soon as you need them to pay up, if the car is Unroadworthy, then you are on your own.


TCIS yes, but with which insurer? TCIS are only brokers.

Also are you covered for offroading everywhere?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:11 am
by hottiemonster
mj wrote:
well my car is 2" suspension lift then


It'll sag to that anyway ;)

Wish I lived in NSW :roll:

Do TCIS have online quoting facility or by phone only? I can't insure under my old mans name cause he has a fugged up driving history :lol:


they have both online and phone quote.

i just did mine then with tcis and under dads name it came to 510 premium with me not a nominated driver and if i am it is 1200, with an excess of about 900 more.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:44 am
by Ferwoaza
I got about $430 a year today with Aust 4wd Insurance. $10000 market value, 2" body, 2" spring lift. 55% no claim, and about $2k in accessories...

Better than the $115/month TCIS wanted to charge me :shock:

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:48 am
by ToNkA
Can we have phone numbers or links to their sites?

Or are they all in ruffs link section already?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:57 am
by HeathGQ
ToNkA wrote:Can we have phone numbers or links to their sites?

Or are they all in ruffs link section already?


yes, but

www.tcis.com.au

www.dgainsurance.com.au

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:55 pm
by bogged
Ferwoaza wrote:I got about $430 a year today with Aust 4wd Insurance. $10000 market value, 2" body, 2" spring lift. 55% no claim, and about $2k in accessories...


weird, Aust4wd insurance (DGA) was double the cost of the others for the GQ!

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:35 pm
by Ferwoaza
Must be cause I'm living out in the boonies...nothing round here but cane toads and 83lux's ;)

TCIS were about $1400 a year last year and dropped to about $900 for me this year. Very strange all this crap...but ....my paper work is through so so long TCIS.

Oh..don't have to be a club member or anything with Dgain either..

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:53 pm
by bundytunna
its with tcis through unique cars
im covered offroad everywhere incl unmade roads so at robe and shit
it is my dads car and he has amost perfect driving record
i just hope to god if i have an accident i am covered

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:59 pm
by spazbot
you ask then what about a driver under 25 ?
do i have to list them on policy etc etc

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:09 pm
by bundytunna
yeh i am listed on the policy
i just want a piece of paper that says they will cover me with the mods i got

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:26 pm
by hottiemonster
i got a quote with them today (tcis)

under dads name and me NOT a nominated driver the excess is approx 510 for my car with all the mods/accessories, but i forgot to mention the diff lock so it might change.

Under dads name with me as a nominated driver (10%) the premium goes up to 1200 approx with the same above.

Also if i have an accident and am not listed on the policy they might not pay up in some circumstances, so i think it is best to have me listed down and get slugged the extra 800.

If i am not listed and crash on the road, oh s**t, but if i do in the bush, "dad was behind the wheel" ;)

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:04 pm
by bogged
2 tips hottie, you can bet insurance companies read these forums, adn they would have copies of anything they can use in court, cause they love paying out..

we all know the dodgy things, just dont say them where they can see...

and other is be on the policy, if you aint they will wave night night... cause they love paying out..

re

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:10 am
by Grantw
I can understand that we all try to save money every way we can.... BUT dodging up insurance is Bullsh1t. Its another cost associated with the sport. No diffferent to new tyres each year. Insurance is not only for the panel damage but for your passengers who end up injured as a result.

Do you think that your injured passengers will back up the story that "Dad was behind the wheel!"????

I am suprised that the youngest driver was not listed on the policy.

I am 23, have agreed value of 30K plus 5K in mods. Premium is 700pa. However anyone else under my age is uninsured whilst driving the car....

My girlfriend has a proton gti, she is 23 we have agreed of 27K, but if you are not listed on the policy as a driver you are not insured either... But thats a sports and preformance car..

Unfortunately the only way we learn is the hard way. My first car was written off and I lost the battle with suncorp because I did not inform them of the mods....

We live and learn

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:36 am
by hottiemonster
ok, good point

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:34 pm
by Cooee
I'm insured through AAMI, vehicle is covered for $67,000. Includes 70mm suspension lift, Cooper S/T's and around $6,000 in extras. Have it in writing on my policy. " Total cost per year " $445.00.

Yes i'm rating 1 and over 25, but l thought that was a good price.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:44 pm
by diesel028
Cooee, are you covered OFFROAD with AAMI??

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:28 pm
by bogged
diesel028 wrote:Cooee, are you covered OFFROAD with AAMI??


I think they have lots of fine print, was a good thread on Exploroz ages ago with them.