Importing GQ to Queensland

[legsx1]

Hi guys across the ditch
I am thinking about importing my GQ into Queensland, where do I start
1/ It is a modified truck
2/ Who do I contact to see if I can
3/ Are there any 4wd clubs around Moolooaba

What regs etc does it need to comply with and can it be done for a short period of time - 3 years without problems?

Any response would be great

[badger]

i recon you could buy one here for not much more than importing costs for the sake of 3 years

[bogged]

1/ It is a modified truck

this is where your problem lies - Qld allow fuck all mods.. eg no 35's 2in lift max etc.
What mods do you have?

maybe easier to buy over here and build to the rules.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=127608 for a few ideas

[legsx1]

how do the competition trucks get on then if they dont allow 35" and 2" lifts

my truck has 35", 2" body and suspension lifts, V8 all the mods are certified here for NZ road use

[Dee]

how do the competition trucks get on then if they dont allow 35" and 2" lifts

my truck has 35", 2" body and suspension lifts, V8 all the mods are certified here for NZ road use

they get on... and off trailers.

[Shadow]

how do the competition trucks get on then if they dont allow 35" and 2" lifts

my truck has 35", 2" body and suspension lifts, V8 all the mods are certified here for NZ road use

they get on... and off trailers.

yeh, or get around on 33" with 35"'s in tow.

2" suspension is allowed (law is actually 1/3 suspension travel)
2" body is allowed (just need to get it inspected/approved by qld transport)

v8 is allowed aslong as it does not exceed capacity to weight ratio. Ie, cant put a 454 in a gemeni, can put a 350 in a cruiser, and a 308 in a hilux.

tyres can only be 15mm bigger than standard.

[mattsluxtruck]

If its coming from NZ the GQ will most likely be running leaded fuel.
Will have to be setup for unleaded over here.

[ferret]

The unleaded thing is just a restricter in the filler neck, I've seen them on ebay for a $40 before. As a personal import it will be subject to different rules to what the rest of us have to endure. The trick is that it won't have any ADR's (Australian Design Rules) listed on the compliance plate, therefore as long as it passes a safety certificate and complies with noise regs etc it will be fine, although I'd still suggest you make the mods look as standard as possible (ie, paint your springs and body lift blocks satin black and let them get a bit of road grime on them before you bring it over) and scam a tire placard that shows rubber big enough to let you get away with the 35's (not that I'd suggest changing the tire placard case that would be illegal......) you should just have to get the engine conversion inspected and you'll be right. Even if you get pulled over by the local constabulary, as long as it's in the same state as it was when it was imported and complied there's nothing they can do about it. You'll have to provide proof of ownership to show that you've been the registered owner for more than 12 months and get an import approval for it, but other than that personal imports are generally pretty straight forward.

[mavzilla]

we import cars from japan and personal imports are only aloud pre 1988 ,now which kills of anything worth importing but dont know if this applies to you. because you owned it there . check and make sure or you will be very diapointed

[ferret]

Personal imports are still ok as long as you are moving over and just bringing your personal vehicle/s with you, the pre '88 cars that you mention used to fall under a rule whereby vehicles that were 15 years or more old could be brought in and legally registered with little more than a safety certificate and a mod plate, when the numbers coming in started to climb dramatically as R32 skylines, silvias etc started to fall under the 15 year rule, they moved the goalposts and made it pre '88 only.

[frp88]

The rules are very different when you bring an approved vehicle into QLD and its your's for you to live here. I was on the phone to the DOT about 6 month ago a sprung over middy in NSW which I wanted to buy a get regd. here. I was told no but if I was living in NSW had a truck with app. mods and moved QLD then that would be O.K . I asked why and he said because the mod was done in NSW where it was legal and they where responsible. I would give it a go, but 35 there is no way on a gq we are lucky with 33.

[Shadow]

The rules are very different when you bring an approved vehicle into QLD and its your's for you to live here. I was on the phone to the DOT about 6 month ago a sprung over middy in NSW which I wanted to buy a get regd. here. I was told no but if I was living in NSW had a truck with app. mods and moved QLD then that would be O.K . I asked why and he said because the mod was done in NSW where it was legal and they where responsible. I would give it a go, but 35 there is no way on a gq we are lucky with 33.

thats bullshit

all vehicles registered in qld must comply with qld modofication guidlines. no exceptions.

[frp88]

Well I will ring up again after all if you drive over the border your doesn't become illegal. Don't forget it has to be Roadworthy they never use to let left hand drive cars on the road and now you can.

[Shadow]

Well I will ring up again after all if you drive over the border your doesn't become illegal. Don't forget it has to be Roadworthy they never use to let left hand drive cars on the road and now you can.

Driving a nsw registered vehicle with a 6" lift 37" tyres etc, is not permited on QLD roads as far as i understand it. There have been a number of threads on this forum and on the overlander forum regarding exactly this issue. One of the threads had correspondence directly from a senior member of QLD transport, and that is what he said.

The police and qld transport do not pursue the issue, but as a point of law, to drive any vehicle on QLD roads, regardless of where its registered, it must comply with all qld laws, including the QLD modification guidlines.

I can tell you 100% that you will not get a car that does not meet qld modification guidlines registered in qld. Well, you can, but that doesnt mean its right. When you apply to register a vehile you are making a declaration that the vehicle complies to QLD modification guidlines and all applicable ADR's. Sure, they might not check your car, and the AIS you used for your safety certificate might not pick up all the illegal mods, so yes, you might get it regustered, but as soon as a cop or DOT see it, it will be defected.

[frp88]

Well I will ring up again after all if you drive over the border your doesn't become illegal. Don't forget it has to be Roadworthy they never use to let left hand drive cars on the road and now you can.

Driving a nsw registered vehicle with a 6" lift 37" tyres etc, is not permited on QLD roads as far as i understand it. There have been a number of threads on this forum and on the overlander forum regarding exactly this issue. One of the threads had correspondence directly from a senior member of QLD transport, and that is what he said.

The police and qld transport do not pursue the issue, but as a point of law, to drive any vehicle on QLD roads, regardless of where its registered, it must comply with all qld laws, including the QLD modification guidlines.

I can tell you 100% that you will not get a car that does not meet qld modification guidlines registered in qld. Well, you can, but that doesnt mean its right. When you apply to register a vehile you are making a declaration that the vehicle complies to QLD modification guidlines and all applicable ADR's. Sure, they might not check your car, and the AIS you used for your safety certificate might not pick up all the illegal mods, so yes, you might get it regustered, but as soon as a cop or DOT see it, it will be defected.

When a Mod is in NSW it still has to comply with ADR rules and it is covered by the rego and insurance if the insurance is O.K with the mods.It doesn't have anything to do where you drive if you are is legal
redg. then its O.K.Dot can't do anything cos it isn't a QLD redg.

[Shadow]

Well I will ring up again after all if you drive over the border your doesn't become illegal. Don't forget it has to be Roadworthy they never use to let left hand drive cars on the road and now you can.

Driving a nsw registered vehicle with a 6" lift 37" tyres etc, is not permited on QLD roads as far as i understand it. There have been a number of threads on this forum and on the overlander forum regarding exactly this issue. One of the threads had correspondence directly from a senior member of QLD transport, and that is what he said.

The police and qld transport do not pursue the issue, but as a point of law, to drive any vehicle on QLD roads, regardless of where its registered, it must comply with all qld laws, including the QLD modification guidlines.

I can tell you 100% that you will not get a car that does not meet qld modification guidlines registered in qld. Well, you can, but that doesnt mean its right. When you apply to register a vehile you are making a declaration that the vehicle complies to QLD modification guidlines and all applicable ADR's. Sure, they might not check your car, and the AIS you used for your safety certificate might not pick up all the illegal mods, so yes, you might get it regustered, but as soon as a cop or DOT see it, it will be defected.

When a Mod is in NSW it still has to comply with ADR rules and it is covered by the rego and insurance if the insurance is O.K with the mods.It doesn't have anything to do where you drive if you are is legal
redg. then its O.K.Dot can't do anything cos it isn't a QLD redg.

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

[super jeep]

Well I will ring up again after all if you drive over the border your doesn't become illegal. Don't forget it has to be Roadworthy they never use to let left hand drive cars on the road and now you can.

Driving a nsw registered vehicle with a 6" lift 37" tyres etc, is not permited on QLD roads as far as i understand it. There have been a number of threads on this forum and on the overlander forum regarding exactly this issue. One of the threads had correspondence directly from a senior member of QLD transport, and that is what he said.

The police and qld transport do not pursue the issue, but as a point of law, to drive any vehicle on QLD roads, regardless of where its registered, it must comply with all qld laws, including the QLD modification guidlines.

I can tell you 100% that you will not get a car that does not meet qld modification guidlines registered in qld. Well, you can, but that doesnt mean its right. When you apply to register a vehile you are making a declaration that the vehicle complies to QLD modification guidlines and all applicable ADR's. Sure, they might not check your car, and the AIS you used for your safety certificate might not pick up all the illegal mods, so yes, you might get it regustered, but as soon as a cop or DOT see it, it will be defected.

When a Mod is in NSW it still has to comply with ADR rules and it is covered by the rego and insurance if the insurance is O.K with the mods.It doesn't have anything to do where you drive if you are is legal
redg. then its O.K.Dot can't do anything cos it isn't a QLD redg.

i agree with shadow through experiance not in a 4wd but we went to tweed to meet one of my mates from sydney to go to a car show he was driving his 307 powered lj torana and his mate were driving a eh with 350 chev and both these vehicles were registerd in nsw but as i sat there waiting two cop cars pulled up and sat near the border and as soon as both cars crossed the border they were pulled up defected under qld law then told to go back across the border now this didn't happen to just them there was also another lot of cars going to the same show as us got done as well and the only way we got these cars to the show was to trailer them

[-Scott-]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

[Shadow]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

Freedom of movement between states. Are you serious? Get out and walk, you can go wherever you want, but not in a vehicle that doesnt comply with the states roadyworthy requirements.

The thread im talking about had email responses from a senior person at qld transport, and it said in no uncertain terms, that, any vehicle on qld roads must comply with qld laws, irrespective of where its registered.

[super jeep]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

you are right to a certain degree you are allowed to move between states for a six week period(not sure if it is the same now)but the police have the right to deam the car unsafe and order it not to be driven and this is how they got these guys, we tried to fight it but the police were in the right in the way they done it, this was also in a period when the qld cops where on this anti hooning thing

[frp88]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

Freedom of movement between states. Are you serious? Get out and walk, you can go wherever you want, but not in a vehicle that doesnt comply with the states roadyworthy requirements.

The thread im talking about had email responses from a senior person at qld transport, and it said in no uncertain terms, that, any vehicle on qld roads must comply with qld laws, irrespective of where its registered.

you cant be serious you cant drive though our country because the state laws change Then why do we have open borders get real we are talking driveing a legal car with other state redg. here I not saying that they wouldn't check.

[steven101]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

Freedom of movement between states. Are you serious? Get out and walk, you can go wherever you want, but not in a vehicle that doesnt comply with the states roadyworthy requirements.

The thread im talking about had email responses from a senior person at qld transport, and it said in no uncertain terms, that, any vehicle on qld roads must comply with qld laws, irrespective of where its registered.

Might I add, im going to get slaughtered for this....

A 4wd with a 6" Suspension lift, 2" Body lift and 37" tires is not what you bloody call safe for christ sakes people you have like a 10 metere blind spot behind your car, and also its x1999999999 easier to flip.

Not to mension most of these cars are cheap ones with no ABS or Traction control or anything, having to avoid something would result in a spin out no matter what.

Also not to mension all unsafe and dodgy welding that is done on some of these cars. You can't seriously expect to drive them.

[frp88]

the original post was for 2 inch lift 2 inch body and 35 thats all and we will get it legal here easy he just needs 33 thats all if the v8 is from the Y.O.M. that will meet ADR.

[Shadow]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

Freedom of movement between states. Are you serious? Get out and walk, you can go wherever you want, but not in a vehicle that doesnt comply with the states roadyworthy requirements.

The thread im talking about had email responses from a senior person at qld transport, and it said in no uncertain terms, that, any vehicle on qld roads must comply with qld laws, irrespective of where its registered.

you cant be serious you cant drive though our country because the state laws change Then why do we have open borders get real we are talking driveing a legal car with other state redg. here I not saying that they wouldn't check.

the ADR is the set of laws that cover the whole country.

Each state then goes further and allows certain modofications. If you modify your car from the manufacturers spec, you are assuming the responsiblity for the safety of the vehicle, the passengers in it, and other motorists and padestrians. In NSW they deem a 5" lift to be engineerable. In QLD they dont. How can they say a 5" lift is unsafe, and then allow a car to drive on thier roads simply because its from south of the border. They cant.

[frp88]

Im not going to do the research for you. Have a search, and i think youl be surprised.

I have no doubt that Qld Police give interstate drivers a hard time.

I have no doubt that you can find posts on internet forums which support your beliefs.

I believe the Australian Constitution provides for freedom of movement between states, and as such, any vehicle which is legally registered in its home state may be legally driven in any state in Australia. If Qld Police say otherwise, I believe they're the law breakers.

Freedom of movement between states. Are you serious? Get out and walk, you can go wherever you want, but not in a vehicle that doesnt comply with the states roadyworthy requirements.

The thread im talking about had email responses from a senior person at qld transport, and it said in no uncertain terms, that, any vehicle on qld roads must comply with qld laws, irrespective of where its registered.

you cant be serious you cant drive though our country because the state laws change Then why do we have open borders get real we are talking driveing a legal car with other state redg. here I not saying that they wouldn't check.

the ADR is the set of laws that cover the whole country.

Each state then goes further and allows certain modofications. If you modify your car from the manufacturers spec, you are assuming the responsiblity for the safety of the vehicle, the passengers in it, and other motorists and padestrians. In NSW they deem a 5" lift to be engineerable. In QLD they dont. How can they say a 5" lift is unsafe, and then allow a car to drive on thier roads simply because its from south of the border. They cant.

It is the responsibylity off the engneer to make sure that is done correctly and then the third party which covers other ppl. Don't forget we only talking 2 inch and a v8 if the engine is off the same year he will piss it in.

[bogged]

the ADR is the set of laws that cover the whole country.
.

then if the ADR is Australian Design Rules, it says 5kph error allowance in speedo, how do Vic get away with VDR's and fuck the ADR's??

[-Scott-]

the ADR is the set of laws that cover the whole country.

Each state then goes further and allows certain modofications. If you modify your car from the manufacturers spec, you are assuming the responsiblity for the safety of the vehicle

No.

The engineer signs off that it complies with the INTENT of the ADR.

In NSW they deem a 5" lift to be engineerable. In QLD they dont. How can they say a 5" lift is unsafe, and then allow a car to drive on thier roads simply because its from south of the border. They cant.

NSW accepts that the vehicle with the 5" lift complies with the INTENT of the ADR. For all intents and purposes, the vehicle complies with the ADRs.

Qld turns around and says "We don't care if it complies with ADRs or not. We're a bunch of can'ts. We say no." It doesn't make them right - but who's going to challenge them in court?

They do it because they can - not because they're right.

[-Scott-]

Might I add, im going to get slaughtered for this....

I don't know about slaughtered, but you're a leading contender for uninformed opinion of the month.

A 4wd with a 6" Suspension lift, 2" Body lift and 37" tires is not what you bloody call safe for christ sakes people you have like a 10 metere blind spot behind your car, and also its x1999999999 easier to flip.

Where to start?

Who (other than you) is talking about 8" of lift on 37" tires? (Tires? This is Australia - we drive on tyres!)

10m blind spot? In which vehicle?

2 billion times easier to flip? I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!

... having to avoid something would result in a spin out no matter what.

But I thought it was going to flip? Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Also not to mension all unsafe and dodgy welding that is done on some of these cars. You can't seriously expect to drive them.

Did you notice the use of the term "engineer" anywhere in this topic? We are talking about engineered vehicles, not back-yard booty-fab. The engineering process is intended to pick up the "unsafe and dodgy welding" and ensure it isn't allowed onto the road.

Are you Harold Scruby's illegitimate love child?

[Shadow]

the ADR is the set of laws that cover the whole country.

Each state then goes further and allows certain modofications. If you modify your car from the manufacturers spec, you are assuming the responsiblity for the safety of the vehicle

No.

The engineer signs off that it complies with the INTENT of the ADR.

In NSW they deem a 5" lift to be engineerable. In QLD they dont. How can they say a 5" lift is unsafe, and then allow a car to drive on thier roads simply because its from south of the border. They cant.

NSW accepts that the vehicle with the 5" lift complies with the INTENT of the ADR. For all intents and purposes, the vehicle complies with the ADRs.

Qld turns around and says "We don't care if it complies with ADRs or not. We're a bunch of can'ts. We say no." It doesn't make them right - but who's going to challenge them in court?

They do it because they can - not because they're right.

what adr covers suspension?

[-Scott-]

the ADR is the set of laws that cover the whole country.

Each state then goes further and allows certain modofications. If you modify your car from the manufacturers spec, you are assuming the responsiblity for the safety of the vehicle

No.

The engineer signs off that it complies with the INTENT of the ADR.

In NSW they deem a 5" lift to be engineerable. In QLD they dont. How can they say a 5" lift is unsafe, and then allow a car to drive on thier roads simply because its from south of the border. They cant.

NSW accepts that the vehicle with the 5" lift complies with the INTENT of the ADR. For all intents and purposes, the vehicle complies with the ADRs.

Qld turns around and says "We don't care if it complies with ADRs or not. We're a bunch of can'ts. We say no." It doesn't make them right - but who's going to challenge them in court?

They do it because they can - not because they're right.

what adr covers suspension?

My mistake. Supposed to be "ADRs" - Australian Design Rules - plural - all of them. When it comes to suspension lifts, does the vehicle handle/steer/brake in an acceptable manner?