engine conversions and wiring

[killalux]

Hey all,
Just wanted to post this up for anyone doing a engine conversion, I am now doing some almost plug and play harnesses on exchange basis,
I currently have a Gen 3 manual harness here ready to go, $500 exchange. there will be more to come.
I can also do other engines on a one off basis at this stage, until I find harnesses to keep as an exchange.

I am also offering a full engine conversion service. I will be doing these out of my shed so therefore prices will be good.

I hope I am not offending any workshops by saying this, But the reason I have decided to start doing this is because there are alot of bad workshops around doing conversions, that people have paid well over $8000, and the job that has been done is, well, crap, and they are lucky if the engine runs properly, let alone reliable. If it were mine I would not have accepted it and told them to stick it.
And also heard a lot of stories of people waiting up to 12 months to have it done.
I know this is not all shops and there are good ones around.

I believe there a lot of workshops in this industry ripping people off for this sort of work.

Anyway, anyone in the south east QLD region wanting a workshop engine conversion done, please contact me for a price.

I am offering for anyone wanting to put a lexus V8 into a hilux, to do labour at half price (1 only), in exchange for being able to do a full write-up on here, and putting some stickers on there car as promotion for my business.

Thanks
Steve

[cloughy]

$500 dollars for a couple relays and a few wires?

[Sandy Rut]

$500 dollars for a couple relays and a few wires?

$500 for a couple of relays and a few wires + no headaches - sounds like good value to me.
Especially when you consider how much 'shops' charge and how long they take.
Convenience comes at a price and I reckon $500 is a good price.

Disclaimer - I know not all auto sparktricians are dodgy and dont want to paint them with the same brush, but man I have heard some nightmare stories......

Killalux good luck with it

[mkpatrol]

$500 dollars for a couple relays and a few wires?

Parts ar cheap, labour is not. Sounds like good value if you are not wiring savvy.

[naif]

Al and Miles from http://www.amauto.com.au are capable of installing anything into anything and their workmanship is one of the best around.

[clm434]

Hey all,
Just wanted to post this up for anyone doing a engine conversion, I am now doing some almost plug and play harnesses on exchange basis,
I currently have a Gen 3 manual harness here ready to go, $500 exchange. there will be more to come.
I can also do other engines on a one off basis at this stage, until I find harnesses to keep as an exchange.

I am also offering a full engine conversion service. I will be doing these out of my shed so therefore prices will be good.

I hope I am not offending any workshops by saying this, But the reason I have decided to start doing this is because there are alot of bad workshops around doing conversions, that people have paid well over $8000, and the job that has been done is, well, crap, and they are lucky if the engine runs properly, let alone reliable. If it were mine I would not have accepted it and told them to stick it.
And also heard a lot of stories of people waiting up to 12 months to have it done.
I know this is not all shops and there are good ones around.

I believe there a lot of workshops in this industry ripping people off for this sort of work.

Anyway, anyone in the south east QLD region wanting a workshop engine conversion done, please contact me for a price.

I am offering for anyone wanting to put a lexus V8 into a hilux, to do labour at half price (1 only), in exchange for being able to do a full write-up on here, and putting some stickers on there car as promotion for my business.

Thanks
Steve

VP V6 into '92 MJ Triton, with standard triton manual box???

[Struth]

Best of luck with the service you are offering.

Are you offering that your work will pass relevant engineering/regulations?

I do think the loom price is a little expensive at $500. Something more like $350.00 should apply to the more common conversions such as Holden Vee's into Toyo's or Nissans, etc.

I also think that the professional workshops overcharge for engine conversions, sure they need to make a margin and the work is somewhat specialised.

But then I am not a mechanic and I successfully fitted a Holden Vee to my Toyota, so it is not all that specialised.

Good luck with it anyway

[purplebus]

g,day steve good to see you still about. sounds like $500 well spent to me. after seeing a few trucks on their 1st and 2nd outings with elec problems being fixed in the comp areas at cruiser.
tempted to buy a lux. shano

[killalux]

Best of luck with the service you are offering.

Are you offering that your work will pass relevant engineering/regulations?

I do think the loom price is a little expensive at $500. Something more like $350.00 should apply to the more common conversions such as Holden Vee's into Toyo's or Nissans, etc.

I also think that the professional workshops overcharge for engine conversions, sure they need to make a margin and the work is somewhat specialised.

But then I am not a mechanic and I successfully fitted a Holden Vee to my Toyota, so it is not all that specialised.

Good luck with it anyway

I don't see why my work would not pass engineering, I have done 2 of my own that passed no prob. I am not however doing exhaust systems, which would be one major factor that would affect engineer's (cat converter and noise), That is left up to the customer.

I don't think the looms are expensive at all, i did some research and other companies for the same product charge much more.
For example, Gen 3 between $600 to $750, lexus V8 between $750 and $1150, VN V6 or V8 around $480, i will prob charge less for these simple harnesses.

I agree alot of people are able to do a conversion, But it comes down to neatness and reliability that counts in my opinion.

[killalux]

$500 dollars for a couple relays and a few wires?

$500 for 10hrs labour, all unused wires removed from harness, power supply wires re-routed to inside the car.

When you think of it 10 hrs labour at between $77 to $110 at a workshop, sounds like great value to me.

[killalux]

g,day steve good to see you still about. sounds like $500 well spent to me. after seeing a few trucks on their 1st and 2nd outings with elec problems being fixed in the comp areas at cruiser.
tempted to buy a lux. shano

Hey shano, i thought you learnt your lesson about V8's in 4wd's, they keep falling over or breaking things

steve

[Struth]

Best of luck with the service you are offering.

Are you offering that your work will pass relevant engineering/regulations?

I do think the loom price is a little expensive at $500. Something more like $350.00 should apply to the more common conversions such as Holden Vee's into Toyo's or Nissans, etc.

I also think that the professional workshops overcharge for engine conversions, sure they need to make a margin and the work is somewhat specialised.

But then I am not a mechanic and I successfully fitted a Holden Vee to my Toyota, so it is not all that specialised.

Good luck with it anyway

I don't see why my work would not pass engineering, I have done 2 of my own that passed no prob. I am not however doing exhaust systems, which would be one major factor that would affect engineer's (cat converter and noise), That is left up to the customer.

I don't think the looms are expensive at all, i did some research and other companies for the same product charge much more.
For example, Gen 3 between $600 to $750, lexus V8 between $750 and $1150, VN V6 or V8 around $480, i will prob charge less for these simple harnesses.

I agree alot of people are able to do a conversion, But it comes down to neatness and reliability that counts in my opinion.

Not picking mate, just wondering if you intend to ensure that all clearences, etc are ok for eng.

My point is that some customers will expect this, otherwise the difference between your service and the $15k guys service is obvious.

I know that Marks will sell a loom kit for VT V8 into Hilux/4Runner for under $400.00.

I am pleased to see someone offering this service at less than what IMO is the overinflated pricing charged by the so called professionals.

Good luck with it and I hope it succeeds.

Cheers

[killalux]

Best of luck with the service you are offering.

Are you offering that your work will pass relevant engineering/regulations?

I do think the loom price is a little expensive at $500. Something more like $350.00 should apply to the more common conversions such as Holden Vee's into Toyo's or Nissans, etc.

I also think that the professional workshops overcharge for engine conversions, sure they need to make a margin and the work is somewhat specialised.

But then I am not a mechanic and I successfully fitted a Holden Vee to my Toyota, so it is not all that specialised.

Good luck with it anyway

I don't see why my work would not pass engineering, I have done 2 of my own that passed no prob. I am not however doing exhaust systems, which would be one major factor that would affect engineer's (cat converter and noise), That is left up to the customer.

I don't think the looms are expensive at all, i did some research and other companies for the same product charge much more.
For example, Gen 3 between $600 to $750, lexus V8 between $750 and $1150, VN V6 or V8 around $480, i will prob charge less for these simple harnesses.

I agree alot of people are able to do a conversion, But it comes down to neatness and reliability that counts in my opinion.

Not picking mate, just wondering if you intend to ensure that all clearences, etc are ok for eng.

My point is that some customers will expect this, otherwise the difference between your service and the $15k guys service is obvious.

I know that Marks will sell a loom kit for VT V8 into Hilux/4Runner for under $400.00.

I am pleased to see someone offering this service at less than what IMO is the overinflated pricing charged by the so called professionals.

Good luck with it and I hope it succeeds.

Cheers

I will work off the natinal code of practice regulations for engine conversions so that engineers should be all good.

As mentioned i can prob do the early holden harnesses cheaper because they are a lot simpilar. haven't done one yet to price it. And i mount all my relay's inside the cab, the V6 hilux harness i saw from marks had them in the engine bay, therefore a bit more labour involved,

Thanks everyone for the positive comments, and the negative, it helps me can these things right first go so to speak.

steve

[pigletracing]

just had an auto elect leave my place ,,as I only paid peanuts for the original job on mine, so the monkeys created major issues..
now the whole electrics system is being re/worked...says alot for havin the rite people do it rite the first time..

[bogged]

after seeing a few trucks on their 1st and 2nd outings with elec problems being fixed in the comp areas at cruiser.

thats the thing, nice to have things done right first time. then enjoy the car, without worryin' about shiz going wrong as your 1/2 way up that rock face..

[heathgu]

I'd just like to say steves work is top notch, and his service is first rate.

He completely rewiried my GU done an awesome factory looking job, considering my conversion had not been done before.

Cheers Heath

[mikesmith]

$500 for the loom is cheap.

i just did a manual conversion in my vy clubsport and the loom from holden with a massive trade discount to do that was $675.

good luck paying rrp.

thing i seem to notice with 4wd cars and ppl in general is they are mostly tightarses.

"$500 for a couple of relays and some wire" fucking wire it all yourself and i bet you will be wanting that $500 loom then.

love what you are doing killalux making me think i should switch from the old carby chev in the gq to a gen 3.

goodluck with it all

[cloughy]

"$500 for a couple of relays and some wire" . wire it all yourself and i bet you will be wanting that $500 loom then.
all

Oh my god, what's this?? A gen 3 I wired

[brentz]

sounds bloody exellent deal to me good on ya killalux hope it all goes well!

[killalux]

I'd just like to say steves work is top notch, and his service is first rate.

He completely rewiried my GU done an awesome factory looking job, considering my conversion had not been done before.

Cheers Heath

thanks heath,
have the guys done anygood with the trans yet?? The guy that bought my hilux is having similar probs with the auto in it now too. It's stuck in first gear

[killalux]

"$500 for a couple of relays and some wire" . wire it all yourself and i bet you will be wanting that $500 loom then.
all

Oh my god, what's this?? A gen 3 I wired

Hey,
I am not saying this is for everyone, if you are capable of doing it yourself, then go for it.
But if you are going to pay a shop to do it, then these harnesses are a good alternative

steve

[cloughy]

I'd just like to say steves work is top notch, and his service is first rate.

He completely rewiried my GU done an awesome factory looking job, considering my conversion had not been done before.

Cheers Heath

thanks heath,
have the guys done anygood with the trans yet?? The guy that bought my hilux is having similar probs with the auto in it now too. It's stuck in first gear

Tojo auto? no/incorrect speed sensor pulses? just wired a 1UZ-FE and auto

[cloughy]

Hey,
I am not saying this is for everyone, if you are capable of doing it yourself, then go for it.
But if you are going to pay a shop to do it, then these harnesses are a good alternative

steve

I'll clarify, Its not really to dear, BUT an LS1 is about the most simple of things on earth to wire, so once you've done one change over, its really easy, more odd ball stuff will call for more coin

Its only a loom the customer still does alot of the work, they just don't realise, what they're doing, but yea, its a damnsight cheaper than paying someone to do the whole loom

[heathgu]

Yeah mate,

Finally got it going, Made 280hp stock standard at the wheels, with a massive amount of wheel spin. Could not measure the torque, it jumped off the dyno at one stage, was interesting. We had trouble holding it in 4th gear.

Got a massive tune being loaded into it today, should be over the 500hp mark at the wheels so see what happens. Dont think the trans will like it to much. I know the tyres already hate the 280hp.

PM about the trans problem let you know what we found.

Cheers Heath

[bru21]

I wired up my gen 3 and I would not do it for $500 as a one off. The only wiring diagram I had was a holden one with no colours meaning every wire needed to be traced pin to plug.

$500 is like 6 hours auto sparky time and I know most would not even touch this type of thing, and the several I have seen attempt conversions take FOREVER as its a get to it later job.

I think it is brilliant value and the single reason a lot of people put off engine conversions.

well done

cheers Bru

[killalux]

I wired up my gen 3 and I would not do it for $500 as a one off. The only wiring diagram I had was a holden one with no colours meaning every wire needed to be traced pin to plug.

$500 is like 6 hours auto sparky time and I know most would not even touch this type of thing, and the several I have seen attempt conversions take FOREVER as its a get to it later job.

I think it is brilliant value and the single reason a lot of people put off engine conversions.

well done

cheers Bru

just as a reference we charge $88 at my work, and other charge up to $110. And as mentioned, my work. will not take on this kind of work.

the one we did take on was there for about 3 months because it was one of those 'do it later' jobs.

[v6hilux]

just as a reference we charge $88 at my work,

Thats about all you should charge!

There is no need for an adapter harness, as the V6 engine harness meets the Hilux harness in the engine bay at the fuse box and there is about 10 wires to join together there with 3 or 4 under the dash when you put the ECU end behind the pass kick panel - about 1 hours worth of either soldering or crimping!

Just my experience when I converted mine!

I will say, I had the Toyota and Holden diagrams to work off, so it's not that simple if you don't have and/or don't understand the diagrams!

[cloughy]

I wired up my gen 3 and I would not do it for $500 as a one off. The only wiring diagram I had was a holden one with no colours meaning every wire needed to be traced pin to plug.

$500 is like 6 hours auto sparky time and I know most would not even touch this type of thing, and the several I have seen attempt conversions take FOREVER as its a get to it later job.

I think it is brilliant value and the single reason a lot of people put off engine conversions.

well done

cheers Bru

Your talking installed loom, in the car

Holden diagrams are great, full of colour and easily readable, dunno what ones you got

[cloughy]

just as a reference we charge $88 at my work, and other charge up to $110. And as mentioned, my work. will not take on this kind of work.

the one we did take on was there for about 3 months because it was one of those 'do it later' jobs.

Yep and what's the rent on the shop, what sort of stock is kept, how much dead stock, been there for years etc? Are you claiming on tax?

Not stabbing, but that's why cash jobs is cheap, I charge $30 an hour now,

[purplebus]

g,day steve good to see you still about. sounds like $500 well spent to me. after seeing a few trucks on their 1st and 2nd outings with elec problems being fixed in the comp areas at cruiser.
tempted to buy a lux. shano

Hey shano, i thought you learnt your lesson about V8's in 4wd's, they keep falling over or breaking things

steve

definately learnt my lesson. 351 clevo=broken eng mounts everytrip gone to wreckers. 350 on gas = put back on wheels by hilux gone to wreckers.

4.2 turbo diesel = allterrain. will catch up for a brew at expo if you there.
hope all goes well for you. there was a pick off your old supra powered hilux on the park office wall for a while when you drove out of camp road up the side wall half way up. excellent .....