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Rear end decision

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:20 pm
by 4runner_boy
Gday i have an 85 model solid axle 4runner,i want more articulation from the rear so i was thinking of converting it to coils,what would be the better option,Take the rear out of a surf,80 or GQ.
Or keep the housings i have and rig something up.
Whats everyones thoughts cheers

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:03 pm
by johno88
leave springs can flex really well. a set of IFS 2inch raised springs on extended shackles would work well. there will be plenty of people with ideas. hope it might help

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:08 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
yeah real long leaves and shackles will help you get good flex.
otherwise you might end up with width issues with those diffs mentioned as they will be a fair bit wider then your stock diffs.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:10 pm
by 4runner_boy
Yeh, i have shortened the rear of the body and i have a supercharged v6 in it, i was actually trying to get a bit more width if i could, i need to get an engineers certificate for all the mods done so far so i thought i may as well go all out put some good suspension under it, i will probably do majority of the work myself to..

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:47 pm
by chunderlicious
surf or 80 series rear chassis cut will probably be your best bet. surf diff with 80 series chassis mounts would be better than surf chassis and the surf diff is only 2 inches wider.

80 series diff is alot wider (6 inches from memory) and will be stronger aswell.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:50 am
by booflux
Run an IFS rear diff with wheels with a good offset.
Mines plenty wide enough and flexes fine with the Trail Gear kit in it.

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My springs are still new and havent settled yet so flex should only get better.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:39 pm
by 4runner_boy
Ok cool so is going coils worth the work or should i work with the leafs,your truck looks good boof,the trail gear stuff looks pretty good on their site.
I think i might of stuffed up tho,i cut the body down to the rear wheel arch anticipating the coil conversion ah well..

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:43 am
by booflux
I would just work with the leafs but for every one that would work the leafs you will find 2 that would go coils. Personal preference imo

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:53 am
by Rory
im another vote for playing with leafs, its easier than re inventing the wheel for the small gain ull get, sure it will be comfyer and prob flex abit better, but when will u need that extra flex over what boof has anyway. For the money ull spend doing the mods and then engineering id stick with leafs..

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:33 pm
by Lux_89
rory tru as. four runner boy go to mem sections and read through my build up. i have stock ifs rears in the back with bubs shackles and inverted shocks.. cheap as to do cost me 300 bucks m8 cheap as chips and when i got the flippies on she flex's really well.... my 2c, and lock the rear up she will push through anything then.

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:43 pm
by 4runner_boy
yeh i think ill play with leafs,would i gain much going for a trail gear set up,I thought about going out and getting an IFS rear housing and the trail gear setup with a lockrite,Would this handle the v6 and 37s cheers

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:47 pm
by booflux
The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet. :armsup:

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:30 pm
by bubs
booflux wrote:The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet. :armsup:
The trail gear springs and shackles from locktup are $624 + shocks on top of that

The IFS spring conversion is $240 + a 2nd hand set of springs + shocks for the man on a budget it can't be beat.

Both kits have there place :)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:53 pm
by booflux
http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/c3 ... 73398.aspx

Springs are 440 delivered any shackles can be used.
As said both have their benefits but I wouldnt be calling the Trail Gear setup expensive its damn good value imo. And having had IFS rear springs they really dont compare ;)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:27 pm
by bubs
bubs wrote:
booflux wrote:The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet. :armsup:
The trail gear springs and shackles from locktup are $624 + shocks on top of that

The IFS spring conversion is $240 + a 2nd hand set of springs + shocks for the man on a budget it can't be beat.

Both kits have there place :)
I should have read that before posting

The IFS spring conversion I speak of is my 200mm shackles and the rear shock inversion kit. which is another + on the trail gear.

I have no problem with the trail gear stuff, my new lux will have plenty of gear on it from locktup.

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:52 pm
by booflux
bubs wrote:
bubs wrote:
booflux wrote:The Trail Gear springs and shckles wont cost you much more than Lux 89 if only doing the rear, and they work straight out of the box. No trial and error and no stuffing around pulling leafs out etc. Those pics of mine were its first decent trip out and they are no where near broken in yet. :armsup:
The trail gear springs and shackles from locktup are $624 + shocks on top of that

The IFS spring conversion is $240 + a 2nd hand set of springs + shocks for the man on a budget it can't be beat.

Both kits have there place :)
I should have read that before posting

The IFS spring conversion I speak of is my 200mm shackles and the rear shock inversion kit. which is another + on the trail gear.

I have no problem with the trail gear stuff, my new lux will have plenty of gear on it from locktup.
I agree but considering IFS rears go for 100-150 most of the time its only 300 extra for new springs that will flex better, ride better and last better than IFS ones with springs ripped out so they can actually flex. But if dollars is the main concern then the IFS rears are a top way to go.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:03 am
by Lux_89
yeh ill add to this :D ill run ya on the stuff i used and payed.

IFS SPRINGS = $50
SHOCKS = Already had
SHACKLES = Bubs $140 awseome shacles 'plug plug' :armsup:
MOUNTS = Cut off the old front housing

MOST IMPORTANT = Time, this costs nothing, it takes 10mins to remove a bottom load leaf :roll: And Fitment time, allow a day and a carton to cruise through it. Thats welding and everything. IMO running the flipped rims seems to push the whole setup alot more.

heres mine

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if you look down the drivers side, in a rutted situation, it shows its true colors, stump dosent show its full potential.
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:34 pm
by Rory
ill also pay the flipped rims,nothings better than abit of width, when i had flipped rims on mine it was a very stable ride

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:39 pm
by 4runner_boy
your truck looks awesome lux 89, i will go trail gear stuff i reckon.
Wil i have any dramas with axle wrap, and in your opinions would i gain much getting a rear ifs lux d/housing and a hub kit for the front for width

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:50 pm
by Rory
yeah ull gain width, which means stablity so its def worth it