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need front lockers

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:53 pm
by yossi_kl
i want to know where can i buy in melborne front lockers for daihatsu feroza f-300 el2 model 1992
please contact
kleingil@hotmail.com
or leave a message
thanks

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:16 am
by *BESTY*
Very simple answer...........







NOWHERE
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

BUT, what you can do is get the front welded.
Check out the Sticky FAQ section for how-to etc !

Re: need front lockers

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:45 am
by ShinyDiscoBalls
yossi_kl wrote:i want to know where can i buy in melborne front lockers for daihatsu feroza


Who doesn't... :cry: :cry:

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:09 am
by murcod
Even just a rear LSD would be a nice find....

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:33 am
by BundyRumandCoke
Awwww those poor Feroza owners. :cry: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:07 pm
by jabboo
didnt some of them come with rear lsd ?
i remember reading something about it in the service manual that you sent me murcod.
ill go have another read seeing if i can find it.

--
jabboo

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:37 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
BundyRumandCoke wrote:Awwww those poor Feroza owners. :cry: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Um... Mr Bundy Rum & Cola...... :snipersmile: :2gunfire: :bad-words:

No sarcasm required thanks.....

:finger:

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:32 pm
by murcod
jabboo wrote:didnt some of them come with rear lsd ?
i remember reading something about it in the service manual that you sent me murcod.
ill go have another read seeing if i can find it.

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jabboo


Yes, they did. I gave up trying to find one at the wreckers- even tried interstate etc. Lots of wreckers claimed to have them until it came time to produce the goods. :cry:

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:12 pm
by MJHsurfin
murcod wrote:
jabboo wrote:didnt some of them come with rear lsd ?
i remember reading something about it in the service manual that you sent me murcod.
ill go have another read seeing if i can find it.

--
jabboo


Yes, they did. I gave up trying to find one at the wreckers- even tried interstate etc. Lots of wreckers claimed to have them until it came time to produce the goods. :cry:


Is now the time to tell you I had 3 LSD's at one stage ?? - one in the Feroza, one in a spare rear Diff & another in the new 5.57:1 Rear Diff I bought from Toyhatsu Spares in Melbourne.
Ended up selling 2 of them as LSD Centres only for $500 each :D

For those of you even thinking about doing the Front Lincoln Locker - stop thinking & JUST DO IT !!!!!!! - easily the best "Bang for your Offroad Buck" you can do for the Feroza - doesn't affect on road at all & is very drivable off road - plus anything you can put a front wheel on you will climb :twisted: Once you go locked, you won't go back.....

Later - Mike H.

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:15 pm
by rocknferoza
I've been thinking about getting a rear LSD if i can find one and possibly get traction control fitted front and back ;)

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:07 am
by ShinyDiscoBalls
Mike how much was it to lock ya front up??? Wouldn't mind doing it.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:01 am
by Duff
yer i bought one of ya lsd centers a while back

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:25 am
by -Mick-
Weld the front and rear :P Plenty of people have done it on things much larger than a feroza :roll:

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:22 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
mj wrote:Weld the front and rear :P Plenty of people have done it on things much larger than a feroza :roll:


Not too sure about the rear... would tear shit out of tyres wouldn't it? At $250 a tyre it can prove to be an expensive mod.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:12 pm
by -Mick-
Not too sure about the rear... would tear shit out of tyres wouldn't it? At $250 a tyre it can prove to be an expensive mod.


Not a great deal more than the average automatic locker and you'd snap one of those up if it was available wouldn't you?

I'm getting the rear of my zook welded next week :armsup:

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:11 pm
by murcod
You'd want to be using a vehicle for mostly off road work to warrant welding the rear diff. I was involved with club car racing a few years back and seeing/ hearing the ones with welded diffs drive around the pit area would put anyone off doing it.

It would be very dangerous on wet roads too.

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:55 pm
by SimplyPV
welding the rear is NOT a good idea if its your daily driver as well... BAD IDEA! you'll put alot of strain on the driveline and specifically the rear every time you make a turn. your bound to break something way prematurily. not to mention the wear and tear on your truck. go for an lsd at the very minimum.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 5:34 am
by BundyRumandCoke
Auto lockers dont make for that much extra wear on tyres. Having said that, quality tyres are also needed. Having run a Detriot locker in the rear for about the last 6 years, I think I can comment on the subject. I bought a set of Olympic Overlanders once, brand new. By about 15000km, the rears were below half left, but the fronts were not much better. I now run BFG A/T's, the set on at the moment is about 2 years old, still with much more than half left. Mileage on them, god only knows, but would be around the 30-40000 km mark. It is my daily driver, and gets played reasonably hard most times. Some chunks missing, one repaired staking, but very good overall. Ill be getting them again, and getting BFG muds for my second rims when I can afford them.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:12 am
by BabyGodzillaGTi-R
Dear BumdyRumandCoke
Hey dude just curious which companies makes detroit locker for the Rocky F85 now a days? Coz i'm worried that my 15 year old locker might give up in the near future. I havent a slightest clue where my dad sourced his locker back then.
Hope u can be a saviour for my Rocky..... Certainly cannot live without a Detroit Locker.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:41 am
by murcod
The company that used to make them for the Rocky no longer does so.

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:24 pm
by BundyRumandCoke
Godzilla, The company is Trac Tech, in the USA, but as already stated, they no longer make them.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:46 am
by BabyGodzillaGTi-R
Is a locker reserviceable?
I dont dare open the diff.
Coz i noticed that some ppl rebuild their lsd, then again they have the kit for it.

Any idea what normaly goes 1st in a locker?
the Sun and Planetary gears?

I wonder if Lock-Rite makes a locker for the rocky coz i've got one fitted on my Hilux.

ARGH pardon me for asking silly questions as i'm cranky that i've parted my car in the workshop for routine servicing, plus the stupid locker acts up on the road. Sometimes the torque distributes to 1 wheel only when i accelerate on a straight line and then it locks.
Sigh.......
Then again 15 years old on a rocky that goes off roading often is pretty punishing. Sigh.....
Pics of my crapy rig will be out shortly.
Damn i need a scanner soon.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:05 am
by mytuck
I have a mate in sydney that can get a rear lsd center for the reroza from japan costy tho $1700 im thinking of it but would rather an air locker and a diff change of corse

Also he told me you can change the pinions with a suzuki ones and use the feroza crown wheel and make a lsd for the front

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:44 am
by SimplyPV
mytuck wrote:Also he told me you can change the pinions with a suzuki ones and use the feroza crown wheel and make a lsd for the front


say what???? explain!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:35 pm
by haasa
@mytuck: ?

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:51 pm
by Dangerous Dave
How hard is it to weld the front diff in a Roza? I've got a welder and when i try i can almost weld. Whats involved or where can i find info.

I'm the boss need the info... won't somebody throw me a freakin bone here.

hmmm

Dave :D

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:06 am
by Croz
Dangerous Dave wrote:How hard is it to weld the front diff in a Roza? I've got a welder and when i try i can almost weld. Whats involved or where can i find info.

I'm the boss need the info... won't somebody throw me a freakin bone here.

hmmm

Dave :D



Although I have never done it... and I am strongly thinking about it...

The best person to answer would be (I think) Mike H or Murray who I believe have done the mod, but from reading the page Mike used to have on feroza mods and looking at the pics of his welded front, the weld was considerable, having been done either with an arc or oxy (I cant tell) but there needs to be a tremendous amount of strength in the weld so I don't think its something you wanna do unless you are certain you can get it right.

:cool:

If nobody has replied by the time if finish work this arvo I'll hunt out the fotos on my home computer. When you see the foto of the gears welded together you'll get the idea...

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:49 am
by murcod
I've got a feeling that the pics of the welded diff were posted on here somewhere a while back?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:52 am
by murcod

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:30 am
by Dangerous Dave
Thanks for that guys, but it all looks a little on the dodgy side to me. I've got a proper mig welder but i don't know.

Wouldn't the diff be out of balance. Besides my mate came up wit another idea. Has anyone heard of a "minispool" They are a metal cylinder with splines at each end and holes going through the centre for the pins. It basically replaces the spider gears inside the diff and locks it up good and strong.

Now who can tell me how many splines are on a front and rear axles in the diffs. I'm really keen for this now so if anyone knows could you post it on here asap! As you would think that and 25 spline minispool would fit any 25 spline diff! and they pretty cheap around about $100.

Murcod, you were saying something bout you sent some one a owners manual or service manual for a feroza. do you have this on the computer or is it actually in book form as if it is a document on the computer i'd be interested in a copy!

Cheers

Dave :D