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Help needed - GQ rear shock install

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:23 pm
by 86MUD
Hi all

Carrying on from my previous thread entitled "suspension upgrade" I had planned to run GQ shocks in the rear of my rangie (as I thought this was an easy way to get long travel shocks using pin to eye converters) to complement the new 3" lift springs that Shane from Suspensionstuff supplied to me.

Now my problem is the closed length. The GQ Bilstein (model number B46-1267LT is 416mm closed length - so the supplier says). There is no way I am going to fit that in. Even if I modify the top shock mount and remount it above the chassis. I currently have 190mm of bump stop clearance and that is with lowered bumpstops (50mm lower than standard)

Have I got the wrong shock to start with?

Cheers
Andrew

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:35 pm
by boggerbrad37
Is this the standard length GQ shock? Or is he quoting on a shock to suit a lifted GQ? (+2 inch)

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:57 am
by 86MUD
Hey Brad

I think it is the lifted shock (+2"). The claimed open length is just under 700mm and the closed length is 415mm.

Should i be getting the standard length shock? Do you now the open and closed lengths?

Cheers
Andrew

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:09 pm
by boggerbrad37
Not sure what the lengths are. I am using the standard length GQ shocks. Don't forget to add on your pin to eye adaptor as well in the overall set up. You can use these shocks in the front as well with series 2 front towers.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:43 pm
by Mark2
I cant see how this is going to work without either:
1. extending the top mount
2. extending the bump stops by a lot
3. lowering the bottom mount.

#1 seems the best option to me in terms of gains in overall wheel travel.

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:15 am
by 86MUD
Extending the top mount is going to be the option me thinks. I have a two inch body lift, so there is heaps of room to exntend the top mount by up to 120mm

Cheers

Andrew

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:51 am
by TRobbo
What is the open and closed lengths of the rangie shocks?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:32 am
by KiwiBacon
boggerbrad37 wrote:Not sure what the lengths are. I am using the standard length GQ shocks. Don't forget to add on your pin to eye adaptor as well in the overall set up. You can use these shocks in the front as well with series 2 front towers.
What is the difference with the towers?

Re: Help needed - GQ rear shock install

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:44 pm
by Slunnie
86MUD wrote:Hi all

Carrying on from my previous thread entitled "suspension upgrade" I had planned to run GQ shocks in the rear of my rangie (as I thought this was an easy way to get long travel shocks using pin to eye converters) to complement the new 3" lift springs that Shane from Suspensionstuff supplied to me.

Now my problem is the closed length. The GQ Bilstein (model number B46-1267LT is 416mm closed length - so the supplier says). There is no way I am going to fit that in. Even if I modify the top shock mount and remount it above the chassis. I currently have 190mm of bump stop clearance and that is with lowered bumpstops (50mm lower than standard)

Have I got the wrong shock to start with?

Cheers
Andrew
GQ/GU rear from Bilstein should be F4-B46-1267-HO and something around 395 closed and 655 open. I'm assuming the LT suffix means long travel.

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:21 pm
by boggerbrad37
TOP TOWER ON A SERIES TWO SHOCK TAKES A EYE,NOT A PIN

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:26 pm
by Slunnie
boggerbrad37 wrote:TOP TOWER ON A SERIES TWO SHOCK TAKES A EYE,NOT A PIN
Do you mean a Series2 Discovery shock tower?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:51 pm
by boggerbrad37
Yes i did. Here is a bad pic i just took . My top rear shock mount. I welded a 50x10 mill plate to the chassis. I used a LRA kicker. I am not sure if you can still buy them. Made my own pin to eye adaptors. Hope it helps
Image

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:53 pm
by awright
I have a modified mount on the rear diff (std gq style setup) and have made up an extended bracket for the topmount which fits with the body lift (the factory mount goes on but is mounted higher) and have extended bump stops. It all works pretty well and gives more travel than LRA's super extended bilstein kit- dont know how I would go trying to fit in an adaptor in there as well...

I also had some GQ rear koni shocks modded-up by Leslies when they were rebuilt to simply bolt into the disco kit. They worked well too with a 2 inch lift only but havent seen much action and have been sitting in my garage for a while now since I sold my Rangie. They make a nice set with my rebuilt spare 80 series front konis and shocker tower spacers I have just lying around. Probably going to sell them at some point but I might need them as spares??? :?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:30 am
by 86MUD
Thanks Brad

I am already using the kickers from LRA. I plan on using 12mm plate to allow the top mount to be raised above the chassis,

cheers
Andrew