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Got a NJ Pajero, and i want to know what i need to run 35 inch tyres? How much lift? Will i be able to use standard gearing? Will the axles be strong enough?

is nj a 3.0 or 3.5?

i have a 3.0 and did a spring and torsion bar lift with ball joint flip. 2" body lift, remover the bumper corners and bashed the rear of the front guards for the scrub radius. then i had 35s on with minimal rubbing on landcrusier offset rims (stick out further than pajero rims).

Yeah it's a 3L auto. I've got 2 inch body and 2 inch spring lift already, so that's a start. What's a ball joint flip - can i do it myself? What is the difference between patrol and landcruiser offsets?

fervit wrote:What is the difference between patrol and landcruiser offsets?

23mm (give or take, depending on which figures you believe...)

I would suggest 33s, I am running very close to 35s, 34.6 simexs and the gearing is shocking and I hate the lack of power, I have a 3.5 liter NL manual. I really need some new transfer case gears to allow these tyres to be usable for more than bog hole playing.

I run and clear 35x11.5 Simexs et'2s on my 3L NJ pajero fine with a 20mm suspension lift and a 2 inch body lift and I also run no sway bars and have no rubbing.

Simon

ball joint flip... take the upper wishbone balljoint off and remount it under the wishbone. spacers cxan be added but i didnt. also the existing bolts are 8mm and its good to upgrade them for 10mm.

redpaj94 wrote:I run and clear 35x11.5 Simexs et'2s on my 3L NJ pajero fine with a 20mm suspension lift and a 2 inch body lift and I also run no sway bars and have no rubbing.

Simon

PIC's, PIC's, PIC's , This I wanna see.

NJV6 wrote:

redpaj94 wrote:I run and clear 35x11.5 Simexs et'2s on my 3L NJ pajero fine with a 20mm suspension lift and a 2 inch body lift and I also run no sway bars and have no rubbing.

Simon

PIC's, PIC's, PIC's , This I wanna see.

Here you go

Nice one!

What offset rims are you running?

did you have to massasge the rear of the front guards for the scrub radius?

fervit: if you are determined to have 35s, go and borrow some, fit them up then see where they rub. then decide what you need to do to get them to fit (assuming they dont fit). rear axle strength could be an issue tho. frank (bitsamissin) broke at least one and ive heard of them breaking on others.

WACKO wrote:did you have to massasge the rear of the front guards for the scrub radius?

fervit: if you are determined to have 35s, go and borrow some, fit them up then see where they rub. then decide what you need to do to get them to fit (assuming they dont fit). rear axle strength could be an issue tho. frank (bitsamissin) broke at least one and ive heard of them breaking on others.

I had to bend the indside of the front guard back by about 5mm where the mud flaps were but you wouldnt be able to tell.

Simon

Got a NJ Pajero, and i want to know what i need to run 35 inch tyres? How much lift? Will i be able to use standard gearing? Will the axles be strong enough?

Why? 33's not getting you far enough?

33's are so well suited to the paj, 35's are just more effort than they are worth.

Grantw wrote:

Got a NJ Pajero, and i want to know what i need to run 35 inch tyres? How much lift? Will i be able to use standard gearing? Will the axles be strong enough?

Why? 33's not getting you far enough?

33's are so well suited to the paj, 35's are just more effort than they are worth.

Meh! What would you know?

Dont really know too much.....
I know that I am getting itchy feet, thinking about my next shorty build.

Thinking of another NL swb, I wont rush into anything on this one, many lessons learnt on the previous few.

Yep I broke 4 rear axles (2 left/2 right).
2 with 33"s and rear locker, 1 with the 34" JT2's and the last one with the 35" ET's which caused the roll.
Also when Cheezy did all the work we found both rear axles were badly twisted so I replaced both of them with good 2nd hand units that was when it had the JT2's.
Funny never broke an IFS CV though only replaced one due to a broken boot but never managed to break one outright. Broke a few Hilux CV's until I put the treated ones in then no probs.
The 3.0 rear axles at 30.5mm diameter & 28 spline are a definite weekpoint especially in a 5sp manual (more shockloading than an auto).
The Yanks don't tend to break them as they mostly run auto's hell even the legendary Swartzy didn't with all the mad stuff he did with his red shorty.

Hi Frank.

I wish it was only an axle I broke. The 3.5 axles moves the weak point to the locking mechanism. Although I think you had an ARB.

Glen

Yes I had a ARB rear locker and a Detroit front (when it was IFS).
You would be going to bust an ARB locker as they are VERY strong.
I've had a good look at a 9.5" factory locker out of a 2.8TDI and you could tell that the locking mechanism was the weak point the rest of it was strong as though.
Hopefully the new ARB locker will be ready soon for this diff which will make it practically indestructable.

You always did drive like a girl though Frank - too afraid to spill your drink.

Yes it was a personal demon I just had to keep exercising.
A can of Jim Beam with a couple of sips out of it resting in the centre console just could not be spilled
The crawler gears saved many a spillage me thinks

I changed out a rear shaft for the "abuse master" on the sierras trip few years back it didn't break but twisted and we noticed it was leaking oil out the seal so I pulled it for him you could see the splines were not straight so we put a good one it and it was all good. We also found that cryoing the CV's is a good call with 35's and a front locker you can really beat on them lloyd faced no broken CV's after the cryo.

Hey Patrick how are you going ?
And what is the abuse master up to thse days ?
Does he still have the Canyonero ?

LT is getting his new paj ready for some wheeling, its been over a year since he's been out on the rocks. We've all got new trucks to go bash on

I'm doing well adams right I got a new gen1 v6 SWB i'm working on its coming along hope be back out on the trail soon. Mr. Abuse Master still got the red beast I'm trying to get him to drive it over and drop it off so i can work the bugs out of it but he's out caving alot these days trying to get his name in the news again i guess.

The wife and i may come down and visit ya here in a couple years I'll let you know bit out of my wallets reach right now.

Sure Patrick, let me know and we'll organise some sh1t.
I've been doing a lot of travelling for work - Vietnam, Thailand etc.
I really luv Vietnam - great people and the shopping and food is awesome.
Almost did a US trip earlier this year (Carolina, Ohio and a few other states) but sent my offsider instead due to other work committments - I'll get over there one day though.
I gave Lloyd some Aussie slang/Aboriginal words to name some of his caves and tunnels a while ago - he is right into that stuff alright.

Heya Vic! You better come north of the border if you get stateside some day, and come and see me and OlBetsy!

(I read somewhere you got your Missus an Outlander? We got one for the missus too! )

Sorry Fervit: </End hijack...>

If your 3.0L turns 462s in the diffs, I think what you gain in clearance is lost by what you lose in driveability. My 3.0L with 462s with an auto was pushing it on 33s - 35s would have been too much methinks, without a regear...