Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey everybody
im new to outer limits
i have liked jeeps since i first ever seen 1 and ive always wanted 1
i was just wondering if yous could tell me a bit about them as in i hear they chew a bit of fuel, and are they good at 4x4ing are they expensive for parts etc. mainly the wrangler series i like, so wot would be the ideal model to get for my first jeep and im lookin at spending bout 8k to 10k on 1
thanks

catman wrote:Hey everybody
im new to outer limits
i have liked jeeps since i first ever seen 1 and ive always wanted 1
i was just wondering if yous could tell me a bit about them as in i hear they chew a bit of fuel, and are they good at 4x4ing are they expensive for parts etc. mainly the wrangler series i like, so wot would be the ideal model to get for my first jeep and im lookin at spending bout 8k to 10k on 1
thanks

Mate i'm the same, love the look of them...

Fuel use: From factory you'll get about 13-15L/100klm this increases with bigger tyres, guys with 33" tyres get an increase up to about 14-18L/100klm.

Offroading/4x4: They are tailor made for offroad use. They have solid axles, excellent driveline and engine all designed for 4x4 use. The engine has so much torque that it can idle up steep inclines like a diesel and the manual versions have heaps of engine braking, like a diesel. the axles flex well and turning circle is small. A 2 inch lift ($1000) and front swaybar disconects ($300) transform it into an offroad weapon

Spare parts/servicing: This is the biggest myth out there. I reckon they are even cheaper to service than other 4wd's of the same year because of the simple engine bay layout. I get my services done at a 4wd specialist and he charges $130 for a minor service ($300 at the dealer) and $450 for a major service ($800 at the dealer). The dealer (as with any brand) can be expensive but there are heaps of aftermarket shops, even in australia, that specialise in wranglers to help bring alternative prices. There are more aftermarket parts available for TJ Wranglers than any other 4wd on the planet, this is because there are so many in the states.

Known Problems: If you lift them more than 2-3 inches you may need to get an aftermarket driveshaft fitted ($1200) because the factory rear driveshaft is too short. Otherwise you can lower the t-case with spacers when lifting up to 2". Rear main seal leaks, mine does it but as long as it's just a bit damp with an occasional drip, it's normal. If it's dripping a lot then you may need to get it replaced. They can't tow more than 1tonne braked, they've got crappy towing abilities because of the short wheel base. And because of that shortwheel base with coils they feel a bit weird if you're new to them but that's normal. They're not a hwy vehicle, they can be a bit bumpy on the bitumen. Otherwise that's about it.

Ideal for 1st buy?: They're all pretty much the same. Just try to buy the newest with the lowest klm on it. Also, try and get a stock one but there are many highly modified ones available with everything already fitted for serious offroad use. If the softtop is worn out you're up for about $1200-$2000 for a new one. but they're they're awesome tops and fit very well. Try http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/ for more jeep info.

yeah i agree with what he said :p seems almost rehearsed think we have all typed something like that before

yumpet wrote:yeah i agree with what he said :p seems almost rehearsed think we have all typed something like that before

Once a month for last 6 years...

get a real 4x4 get a sierra


ok but failing that your next best might be a wrangler
nice forum
cheers boys

sierra's are cool... if you're game enough to drive one

BUY A VITARA THEY DONT CATCH ON FIRE

Yours might

12LYKK wrote:http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/ind ... 378456&hl=

Enough links huh dude? Any more and they will simply be removed. Heck the OP ss not even asking about a cherokee

Catman,
The wrangler is IMHo an excellent first (& last) 4bee. They are manouverable and nible things, both onroad & off. They are easily customised to what YOU want. And most important they are a ball to drive.

However if you have a heavy right fott they will chew the gas pretty bad.
All said and done the early model ones are damn fine buying right now - my wife just purchased one for herself and I can't pry her out of the danged thing

Wooders wrote: my wife just purchased one for herself and I can't pry her out of the danged thing

More jeeps at the Wooders ranch? You're gonna have to line them all up and take a pic

buy a fire extinguisher before you buy a jeep

danssurf82 wrote:buy a fire extinguisher before you buy a jeep

Ha funny fugger. Maybe you should buy a shovel if you buy a Surf?

lol yeah hilux/surfs need more than a shovel..
i got a vitara, its a toyota recovery vehicle...
the new 4 door rubicons are absulutely crazy and unstoppable with a bit of work... seen one with 37's rock crawling...

danssurf82 wrote:lol yeah hilux/surfs need more than a shovel..
i got a vitara, its a toyota recovery vehicle...
the new 4 door rubicons are absulutely crazy and unstoppable with a bit of work... seen one with 37's rock crawling...

You've got a Vitara and you're paying out on an XJ !!! You are a funny bugger

Cheers
Steve

Steve F wrote:

danssurf82 wrote:lol yeah hilux/surfs need more than a shovel..
i got a vitara, its a toyota recovery vehicle...
the new 4 door rubicons are absulutely crazy and unstoppable with a bit of work... seen one with 37's rock crawling...

You've got a Vitara and you're paying out on an XJ !!! You are a funny bugger

Cheers
Steve

GOLD

wat is with all of the wranglers on car sales being 2door 2seats??

when i see them out and about they always have seats in the bak

supersean89 wrote:wat is with all of the wranglers on car sales being 2door 2seats??

when i see them out and about they always have seats in the bak

The rear seat is removable in 10 seconds thanks to quick release pins. I guess a lot of guys lose the seats lol

ohh what haha..

so does that mean they have chucked it out?

supersean89 wrote:ohh what haha..

so does that mean they have chucked it out?

Actually yeah, a lot of guys throw in the back of the shed and forget about them or it's actually included in the sale but they forgot to mention it.

cheers

danssurf82 wrote:BUY A VITARA THEY DONT CATCH ON FIRE

Suzuki Vitara's do catch fire.. However, the electrical wiring in this one was a bit dodgy though.