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deisel turbo setup to petrol turbo setup
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:52 pm
by ainzy
hi all questions i got a worked deisel that just wont scare me enough and ive done pretty all that is practical to it... si i wanna scavange my turbo intercooler setup from it and put it onto a petrol motor... will my manifolds both the turbo and inlet fit a petrol motor... my motor is 4.2 i want a 4.5 or 4.8 but if 4.2 petrol is straight dit ill settle for it.. any help would be greatly appreciated
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:16 pm
by MyGQ
4.2, 4.5 and 4.8L petty's all use the same exhaust housing bolt out pattern, so yes your TB42 exhaust manifold will fit any one of the petrol motors, the IC however, if its a front mount won't be a problem as you can just run new pipes from the outlet on the IC to the inlet on the EFI throttle body, if its top mount you many have to do some mods to get it to fit as the Throttle body on each of these engines sits too far to the passengers side, so it makes the IC offset.
I am planing on a Turbo 4.2L Straight Gas or 4.5L petty engine if i can get some info on the TB45 engine.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:56 am
by chunderlicious
4.2 and 4.5 is a straight bolt in. the 4.5 rods are skinnier than kate moss and dont really like boost asmuch as the 42. The 4.8 is different, things dont bolt up.
the turbo (although i dont know what it is) is probably too small. youll need (itll be shit without) a GT35R off a xr6 turbo for example or a To4r. you wont be disapointed with either. they fly.
go the efi manifold, even with straight gas it flows so much better than the carb manifold. the intercooler will be fine but give it a professional clean out first as it might have oil and shit through it from the diesel.
PGS will sort you out with what you need to know, great bloke, very helpful
Re: deisel turbo setup to petrol turbo setup
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:44 am
by bogged
so what have you done to it, and what figures are you getting on the diesel?
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:34 pm
by ELF_83
4.8 are different totally to the 4.2/4.5 also the intakes manifolds are different from 4.2 to 4.5
the twin turbo setup i had on my TB42 had 2 turbo's bigger than all my makes when they were runnin single on their TD42 and they were all upgraded diesels as well.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:17 pm
by ainzy
my deisel is totally done.... ran out of advance in the injector pump so had to throw a new camshaft in her, the turbo iss some custom lob by garret its got A/R .70 on the compressor side and A/R .68 on the turbine side i no its been hi flowed... its also uses a ball bearing center... currently ( was ) runnin 30psi .... motor used to belong to kevin Knott in his blue comp ute.... and my top mount water to air cooler is custom made the maniflod is welded into plennum chamber which houses the cooler ARE madae it cost over 6 grand they said... so ill need to sell it to help fund this project
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:19 pm
by ainzy
cant prove it cause dyno sheet is mounted on wall of dyno but she hit 160+ KW at rears and almost 900 NM of torque but that saga is over its time to go crazy on a petty motor maybe wit gas
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:33 pm
by bogged
ainzy wrote:my deisel is totally done.... ran out of advance in the injector pump so had to throw a new camshaft in her, the turbo iss some custom lob by garret its got A/R .70 on the compressor side and A/R .68 on the turbine side i no its been hi flowed... its also uses a ball bearing center... currently ( was ) runnin 30psi .... motor used to belong to kevin Knott in his blue comp ute.... and my top mount water to air cooler is custom made the maniflod is welded into plennum chamber which houses the cooler ARE madae it cost over 6 grand they said... so ill need to sell it to help fund this project
Is that Heaths old Intercooler setup?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:34 pm
by bogged
ainzy wrote:cant prove it cause dyno sheet is mounted on wall of dyno but she hit 160+ KW at rears and almost 900 NM of torque but that saga is over its time to go crazy on a petty motor maybe wit gas
so, what sort of wheeling are you doing where you need more than 160kw? Comps only?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:50 pm
by ainzy
yes it is heaths old cooler... works really well to... nothin to serious really i like to hunt go for cruises occasionally and mix it wit some of the commodore/falcon boys
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:10 pm
by Tomo_89
ls2 conversion?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:35 pm
by bogged
ainzy wrote:yes it is heaths old cooler... works really well to... nothin to serious really i like to hunt go for cruises occasionally and mix it wit some of the commodore/falcon boys
how many cruisers have 160kw either?
Tomo_89 wrote:ls2 conversion?
exactly..
wasting your time going further with what you have even on a TB42. LS would do it with much less strain, and have similar or more sniff.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:58 pm
by ainzy
where from and how much do these motors come from and cost? i not overly keen on a total transplant like that i have been thinkin about takin the boltons off my motor a sellin them to fund new project.... and puttin my deisel back to standerd wit normal boost and such.... was lots of work doin this motor and ii cant imagine my old man will be happy when i invite him round and he finds a 6ltr motor in a crate waitin for him..... i heard the LS2 is like 6grand for a bare motor without computer or anythin
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:59 pm
by ainzy
where from and how much do these motors come from and cost? i not overly keen on a total transplant like that i have been thinkin about takin the boltons off my motor a sellin them to fund new project.... and puttin my deisel back to standerd wit normal boost and such.... was lots of work doin this motor and ii cant imagine my old man will be happy when i invite him round and he finds a 6ltr motor in a crate waitin for him..... i heard the LS2 is like 6grand for a bare motor without computer or anythin
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:19 pm
by ainzy
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:21 pm
by ainzy
thats my boltons i sell them if someone offers rite amount of coin ... i not lookin for what i paid just enough to cover my cost of a new donk
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:31 pm
by cooki_monsta
how much for the turbo and the intake manifold? just out of curiosity? or are you not going to seperate?
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:53 pm
by ainzy
id have to talk to old man but for the turbo cooler and exhaust maniflod id be huntin9 grand... that sounds dear but it cost me fuc loads more
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:38 pm
by cooki_monsta
sounds like a good deal if your including the cooler, but im not after a water to air cooler
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:13 pm
by turps
cooki_monsta wrote:sounds like a good deal if your including the cooler, but im not after a water to air cooler
So what you want is the intake manifold with out the Cooler. Which means someone would have to cut it off as its one piece.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:38 pm
by matt.mcinnes
Still trying to figure out how you adjust the valve clearance or service the injectors without having to unbolt the intercooler/manifold.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:16 pm
by ainzy
every five thousand Ks is a nightmarre i tell ya..... takes me a steady 3 hours to get it off and back on without rushin ....
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:20 pm
by WICKED
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:40 pm
by matt.mcinnes
ainzy wrote:every five thousand Ks is a nightmarre i tell ya..... takes me a steady 3 hours to get it off and back on without rushin ....
Our design is much more serviceable
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