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Engine Rebuild

Tech Talk for Ford, Mazda, Daihatsu & Makes that currently dont have a home.

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Engine Rebuild

Post by McLarryBob »

im planing to rebuild my F300 Feroza engine and i was wondering if i had to remove the motor to do it or can you do it without having to take it out?
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Post by MightyMouse »

Ok if you define "rebuild" as the whole works then virtually essential to remove the engine.

Whilst there's certainly stuff that can be done with the block still in the car ( top end rebuild ) IMO to do a full rebuild its necessary to take it out.

Parts aren't hard to get as long as you don't mention Feroza - just ask for Applause bits and you'l get what you want. However its not a particularly cheap engine to rebuild and its important to have a range of tools available to measure stuff and install replacements etc etc.

By all means do it if you have the knowledge ( and a manual ) - but i'd also suggest an engine stand makes the job much more pleasant.
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Post by McLarryBob »

yeah, complete rebuild.

i have acess to engine stand and all those measuring tools just after an engine manual

Thanks
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Post by MightyMouse »

Download one from www.warfs.org - PDF's of original Feroza manuals.

All the info you'll need to get it done.
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Post by chugga »

I had mine done recently. How much is it going to cost you to do it yourself?
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Post by MightyMouse »

There are variables..... does it need a rebore or just a ridge break/hone etc etc.

Say $1000 if its tired - not stuffed but remember what you find when you pull it down will make a huge difference.

IMO sometimes its better to replace worn parts with other second hand bits than to buy new ones. For example there's no way I'd grind a crank and go oversize bearings when I can get a second hand one in good condition.

Unfortunately there is an element of "how long is piece of string" to a PROPPER ergine rebuild. Personally i'd do a selective job - leave what's OK, replace badly worn components with good second hand, replace seals/gaskets etc AND do the head properly.

But that's just me......
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Post by McLarryBob »

im still waiting on prices for parts so im not 100% sure how much for parts
and i have found an engine manual for the feroza online accept i want a book because i will find it anoying having to walk back into the house all oily and messy to look on the computer
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Post by SimplyPV »

print out what you need before the job!
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Post by McLarryBob »

easier said than done...

our printer is on its way out some days it takes a few mins to print ONE page!
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Post by MightyMouse »

This is just a guess...

but if you save the PDF to a CD a print service should be able to print the pages you need - or perhaps a library etc..... ?
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Post by chugga »

Your better off doing the whole lot. Top end, bottom end new pistons thats if your going to keep the car.
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Post by MightyMouse »

chugga wrote:Your better off doing the whole lot. Top end, bottom end new pistons thats if your going to keep the car.
Actually with the value of a Feroza, I don't believe a rebuild is worth it at all..... however its his money.

Good second hand Applause engines are around if you look ( usually about $120 if you remove it yourself for a core engine from a self serve wrecker ) strip them, change gaskets and seals if your really really picky and away you go. Say $250 all up.

Its VERY IMPORTANT however to be able to assess the engine before you buy it - if you buy junk - then its time and $$ wasted

I've got some great engines and parts this way.
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Post by McLarryBob »

officeworks does black and white pages at 8c each!

i realise that an engine rebuild may not be worth it but as a 2nd year apprentace mechanic i am more after the experience than value so im gonna give it a go
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Post by ulesys »

what about the option of a "new"applause motor. the motor in my feroza needs a medical and am unsure whether to stick with a rebuild or get a an applause motor with a warranty dropped in. I need it to last me a nother few years at least
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Post by MightyMouse »

Price a reco engine from one of the major suppliers - if you don't mind spending 50% or more of the value of the vehicle on a "new" engine then spend away....

For me its a bang for buck issue, if you sold it you certainly won't get the money back that you spent on the reco.
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