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My tyres are fairly worn so Im looking at getting a new set. They are only 32's but its still alot of money so I dont want to waste it.

I have looked at the usual, stt's, mtz's bighorns etc and they all seem to be around the $350 + (well the bighorns are cheaper)

Then I did some hunting and found, federal muddies and toyo open countys etc.

The fedrals are $220 a tyre which is alot less then the coopers and mickys and even the bighorns.

Question is, are they complete crap????

And are there any other cheaper brands out there that I dont know about.

I like the side lugs cos I have bead locks so when I drop them to 10psi they help make up for the massive amounts of ifs flex

mongrels. cheap, very. and not a bad tire either

macca81 wrote:mongrels. cheap, very. and not a bad tire either

I think they went toes up last year
http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/news/lo ... 35126.aspx

bogged wrote:

macca81 wrote:mongrels. cheap, very. and not a bad tire either

I think they went toes up last year

True unfortunately, when they were operating they topped out at 32".... apparently getting larger carcasses to retread was a major challenge

MightyMouse wrote:they topped out at 32".... apparently getting larger carcasses to retread was a major challenge

cant imagine why....

33's was their biggest. Were looking at 35's, but no carcasses.

phil94delica wrote:The fedrals are $220 a tyre which is alot less then the coopers and mickys and even the bighorns.

Question is, are they complete crap????

No they are not crap! My brother runs them on his landcruiser. They have been an awesome tyre off-road. Even on-road they are fine, grip well, and are no noiser than any other muddie.

STT is really just an all-terrain, and in my opinion crap. I have seen the federal couragias out-perform them easily on club trips.

Another cheap brand is Silverstone. Im running the Xtreme model on my Sierra, which are even better again off-road, but crap on-road (not so much grip-wise, but they sound like your flying a small propellor plane or something).
They have some less aggressive models, http://www.silverstone.com.my/ and they are pretty well priced.

Mike

phil94delica wrote:
The fedrals are $220 a tyre

Question is, are they complete crap????

Love my Federals - surprisingly good on the black stuff and excellent off road

I only paid $185 for my 31" Federals.
Very happy with them so far, but I have only had them a few months.

i would suggest low km usage especially if your running them as full time tyres on the work rig... i would invisage half the kms of MTZ whilst MTZ being only 1/3 more $$... maths to me adds up for the MTZ and has done so the last few sets.

bought 15x 31 bighorns today for $190 fitted
was told that 33's were only $10 dearer
maxxis has then on special till the end of Jan

Loved my bighorns, and will definstly buy again. Payed $210 a corner for 33's and was qouted $250 for 35's.

Bought mine from the big tyre group at lawnton

Love my Silverstone MT117's. Cheap as chips to buy.
The xtreme 33x10.5 measures a neat 31" and is brilliant offroad, but gives aural pleasures on road.
The sports version has less sizes but an equally capable rubber profile.

i have super swampers Q78's on bead lock rims and they are magic when you let them down to 10psi... i couldnt be any happier!

mnemonix wrote:Love my Silverstone MT117's. Cheap as chips to buy.
The xtreme 33x10.5 measures a neat 31" and is brilliant offroad, but gives aural pleasures on road.
The sports version has less sizes but an equally capable rubber profile.

I run the MT117 Sports in 285 & love them super grippy on the rocks & off road running at about 18psi. They do make a bit of noise on road, but it is an aggressive mud tyre after all. They deal with wet road conditions quite well for an aggressive mud tyre.

I have the MTZ's and im loving them so far. ill defiantly buy another set. My mate has the big horns and he rates them really well. My boss has the Cooper STT and he absolutely hates them. He wants his MTZ's back.

Toyo80 wrote:

mnemonix wrote:Love my Silverstone MT117's. Cheap as chips to buy.
The xtreme 33x10.5 measures a neat 31" and is brilliant offroad, but gives aural pleasures on road.
The sports version has less sizes but an equally capable rubber profile.

I run the MT117 Sports in 285 & love them super grippy on the rocks & off road running at about 18psi. They do make a bit of noise on road, but it is an aggressive mud tyre after all. They deal with wet road conditions quite well for an aggressive mud tyre.

I rate the MT117 very highly.

If they were available in a 37" I would have bought them over the Creepies. I ran them at 15psi off road and they were superb.

has anyone had a go of the kumho tyre? apparently there muddie is ment to be alright. any one had a go?

AngryElmo wrote:has anyone had a go of the kumho tyre? apparently there muddie is ment to be alright. any one had a go?

Have not tried the latest version, but was very happy with mine when I had them. Good off road traction and good on road, and they lasted many years.
On a Zook which is very kind on tyres.

silverstones?

I had some of the silverstone muddies as well in a 32. They were good.

The only thing I will say is that compared to the goodyear wranglers I got after them, they wore down a lot faster on the road.

Another option is the Kuhmo KL71's, I'm about to get a set.. they're a fair bit cheaper than the big brands, but still pretty good from reports I've seen.

let me know what they are like, im looking at them to. them or the toyo mt's

AngryElmo wrote:let me know what they are like, im looking at them to. them or the toyo mt's

Lockee swears by the Toyo's.. if he cant kill em, they must be good