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speedo

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:20 am
by RB zook
now i got 31's on my zook how much does that affect the speedo

like when im doin 80 would i really be doin 97 or sumthing like that



also where can i get it fixed :?:

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:24 am
by xtreem
Yeah thats pretty close with my 31' simex 85 is 100.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:58 pm
by bigsteve
I haven't seen my speedo hit 80 with the 34's.

Its not like a zook can go fast enough to be speeding anyway (Except for Greg street dragging his down Chapel st)

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:17 pm
by RB zook
its still possiable to do 60 in a 40 zone :finger:

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:12 am
by bigsteve
RB zook wrote:its still possiable to do 60 in a 40 zone :finger:


I must admit, I got busted in my old zook with the tyres aired down and the hubs in.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:17 pm
by Goatse.AJ
Anybody know of anyone in Melbourne who can do mods to calibrate speedos???

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:58 pm
by xtreem
Or Sydney.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:02 pm
by RB zook
i need my speedo calibrated before i get caught :?

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:38 pm
by cj
Ringwood Speedometer Service
693 Whitehorse Rd, Mitcham
03 9874 2260

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:43 pm
by A1
RB you might want to wait ,hold off of gettin ya speedo calibrated cause if you are plannin on fittin a series 1 rockhopper you will find that it will be spot on ...................

And i know this for a fact cause after i got defected in A1ZOOK i had to get it enigineered and shite i had to get the speedo checked for the certificate i got it done on a dyno and it was within 1km upto 140km :twisted: she was hummin on there :armsup:


Just a thought dude and even if you are gunna fit a series 3 wait till you fit it to save gettin it done twice .......................................



A1

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:46 pm
by RB zook
thanks a1 i will hold off till i get my s3 rockhopper and then will
it be accurate :D

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:51 pm
by mtzook
Easy way to get your speed settings right is have someone drive next to you and get on the phone with them and what we did was figured the RPM's at 90kph and 110kph, and went with that for how fast we were going in 5th gear.

40 and 60kph should be pretty easy to figure out. Just go slow.

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:28 pm
by xtreem
I was under the impression that the transfer gearing doesnt correct the speedo.?????????????????????????

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:46 pm
by A1
Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:50 pm
by antt
just use a gps to check it with ;)

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:33 pm
by DaveS3
antt wrote:just use a gps to check it with ;)


Works for me, if you can try to use two different models to check it as they may have slightly different readings

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:20 pm
by Goatse.AJ
Trouble is the Ministry of War and Finance drives bothe trucks at various times, so wanna keep it as simple as poss......espec. seein we're movin' back to Mexico, the Speed Police State.

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:22 am
by greg
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:

Re: speedo

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:23 am
by greg
RB zook wrote:now i got 31's on my zook how much does that affect the speedo


Do a search RB - i'm pretty sure that i have posted up some whiz bang calculations for working this sort of stuff out. There'll be a link to it in the "buying a suzuki" topic.

Cheers

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:24 pm
by stumped
hey RB, if ya end up getting the speedo calibrated, let us know where and how much etc....

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:54 pm
by A1
greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:


ok then smart ass then how duz that work out that wen i had 31's and series 1 my speedo was correct an it had standard ratios and the speedo wasnt touched (pauline hanson voice on PLEASE EXPLAIN )

I would assume it would of been close wen factory and it had 26"s or so on it ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:37 pm
by greg
A1MAV wrote:
greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:


ok then smart ass then how duz that work out that wen i had 31's and series 1 my speedo was correct an it had standard ratios and the speedo wasnt touched (pauline hanson voice on PLEASE EXPLAIN )

I would assume it would of been close wen factory and it had 26"s or so on it ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Take it easy dear... should i get you a panadol and a hot water bottle? :?

Okay - back to business... Your previous zook (which you still pretend to own so you can come and hang out with us cool people in the zook forum) was a coiler - my suggestion is that when you have changed over to a 1.3L transfer case (which you have since you are running a rockhopper right) - you have affected the reading that the speedo is getting from the x-fer.

i.e. the 1.3L case and speedo are set up differently to the coiler case and speedo.

Note that the 1.3L Widetrack and 1L NT are set up differently - they have different diff gears, but still have the same sized tyres - that means that either their x-fer case output for the speedo, or the speedo itself is different right?

How can we prove this? Well all we need is for someone to post up how many revs they use in a stock tyred coiler to do 100kms, then compare that to the 1.3L stock tyred sierra and that will prove the theory.

:ahem: it's my theory, i own it and all that it is and represents :ahem: :D

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:31 pm
by redzook
if you can't work out what speed u r doin at what RPM's u r shit ;) :finger:



and A1 settle down :lol:
and get your junk ready for some wheelin :twisted: :D

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:19 pm
by A1
greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:
greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:


ok then smart ass then how duz that work out that wen i had 31's and series 1 my speedo was correct an it had standard ratios and the speedo wasnt touched (pauline hanson voice on PLEASE EXPLAIN )

I would assume it would of been close wen factory and it had 26"s or so on it ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Take it easy dear... should i get you a panadol and a hot water bottle? :?

Okay - back to business... Your previous zook (which you still pretend to own so you can come and hang out with us cool people in the zook forum) was a coiler - my suggestion is that when you have changed over to a 1.3L transfer case (which you have since you are running a rockhopper right) - you have affected the reading that the speedo is getting from the x-fer.

i.e. the 1.3L case and speedo are set up differently to the coiler case and speedo.

Note that the 1.3L Widetrack and 1L NT are set up differently - they have different diff gears, but still have the same sized tyres - that means that either their x-fer case output for the speedo, or the speedo itself is different right?

How can we prove this? Well all we need is for someone to post up how many revs they use in a stock tyred coiler to do 100kms, then compare that to the 1.3L stock tyred sierra and that will prove the theory.

:ahem: it's my theory, i own it and all that it is and represents :ahem: :D




Well fair enough.......................but in this case if this right Rb wont have to change anything correct with 31"s on his coiler (And beleive me i dont wish i still owned my old coily it was a good beginner rig but i decided to grow up you should to and move onto sumthing more capable ) :roll: anyway back to business cause if this is so your ahem theory his speedo will also be correct just by fittin the gear driven case as i did ....................................so to help rb out instead of payin people out hold off doin anything to your speedo RB fit your gear driven case (with wat eva gear set you like! by other peoples comments) and as long as you run 31"s and standard gear ratio's your speedo will be spot on as MINE was ...................................

Sometimes its hard to be helpful :roll:




A1-MAV


Let the shite fight begin BRING IT AWN ........................ :armsup: .........


I yeah A box of panadol and carton of bourbon works wonders pleas add this next time to your list :!:

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:41 pm
by RB zook
thanks a1 you are a champ :armsup:


ill wait till i doo the transfer swap and i will see wat happens

hope you are rite a1 :D

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:47 pm
by A1
Well i wasnt the first time round so i will just wait for his reply i guess........................... :roll:




And i was a bit harsh with the zook comment there a tuff little truck and with the right mods they can be just as capable as anything else , i think we all know this ...........i was lettin off steam not enough bourbon and panadol i guess............................

But all the same bring it awn ;)

A1

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:37 pm
by nelligen
I will be fitting rockcrawler to coily with 31s as soon as the gears turn up from calmini I think(and hope) gregs theory is correct and ill let you know the outcome. :idea:

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:33 pm
by nelligen
nelligen wrote:I will be fitting rockcrawler to coily with 31s as soon as the gears turn up from calmini I think(and hope) gregs theory is correct and ill let you know the outcome. :idea:
gears have turned up at last , but the speedo still reads wrong , speedo reads 90 kph at approx 100 kph true speed , A1MAV , your correct reading speedo is hard to explain :? [/b]

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:27 pm
by A1
Not sure dude i had mine tested on the dyno at a local company to prove the calibration so that i could get my engineeers report i was runnin bfg muddys i know tyres even tho they are 31's can be slightly different in in circumference (height) so maybe this is the case if not just wait n let greg explain it he sees to know everything else ;)

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:45 pm
by nelligen
A1MAV wrote:Not sure dude i had mine tested on the dyno at a local company to prove the calibration so that i could get my engineeers report i was runnin bfg muddys i know tyres even tho they are 31's can be slightly different in in circumference (height) so maybe this is the case if not just wait n let greg explain it he sees to know everything else ;)
I used the speedo drive gear from the gear driven case, did you maybe use the gear from the coily case ??? there has to be some explanation .