Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

speedo

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

Moderators: lay80n, sierrajim

Posts: 3187
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Sydney, or @ newy on weekends

speedo

Post by RB zook »

now i got 31's on my zook how much does that affect the speedo

like when im doin 80 would i really be doin 97 or sumthing like that



also where can i get it fixed :?:
TOYZUKI 96 coily zook,lux diffs, 3 inch suspension lift,3 inch body lift, 33'sMTRS,series 4 hopper,power steer,twin air lockers,4 LINK front and rear,2 inch spacers(GOT WIDTH)
Posts: 426
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:28 am
Location: batemans bay

Post by xtreem »

Yeah thats pretty close with my 31' simex 85 is 100.
Posts: 2817
Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:10 pm
Location: Hellbourne again

Post by bigsteve »

I haven't seen my speedo hit 80 with the 34's.

Its not like a zook can go fast enough to be speeding anyway (Except for Greg street dragging his down Chapel st)
yeshemesh
Posts: 3187
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Sydney, or @ newy on weekends

Post by RB zook »

its still possiable to do 60 in a 40 zone :finger:
TOYZUKI 96 coily zook,lux diffs, 3 inch suspension lift,3 inch body lift, 33'sMTRS,series 4 hopper,power steer,twin air lockers,4 LINK front and rear,2 inch spacers(GOT WIDTH)
Posts: 2817
Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:10 pm
Location: Hellbourne again

Post by bigsteve »

RB zook wrote:its still possiable to do 60 in a 40 zone :finger:


I must admit, I got busted in my old zook with the tyres aired down and the hubs in.
yeshemesh
Posts: 14187
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:09 pm
Location: Trip Trip Trappin' across a bridge

Post by Goatse.AJ »

Anybody know of anyone in Melbourne who can do mods to calibrate speedos???
bru21 wrote:What happens in goat, stays in goat!
Posts: 426
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:28 am
Location: batemans bay

Post by xtreem »

Or Sydney.
Posts: 3187
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Sydney, or @ newy on weekends

Post by RB zook »

i need my speedo calibrated before i get caught :?
TOYZUKI 96 coily zook,lux diffs, 3 inch suspension lift,3 inch body lift, 33'sMTRS,series 4 hopper,power steer,twin air lockers,4 LINK front and rear,2 inch spacers(GOT WIDTH)
User avatar
cj
Posts: 1913
Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:30 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by cj »

Ringwood Speedometer Service
693 Whitehorse Rd, Mitcham
03 9874 2260
User avatar
A1
Posts: 3451
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:57 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by A1 »

RB you might want to wait ,hold off of gettin ya speedo calibrated cause if you are plannin on fittin a series 1 rockhopper you will find that it will be spot on ...................

And i know this for a fact cause after i got defected in A1ZOOK i had to get it enigineered and shite i had to get the speedo checked for the certificate i got it done on a dyno and it was within 1km upto 140km :twisted: she was hummin on there :armsup:


Just a thought dude and even if you are gunna fit a series 3 wait till you fit it to save gettin it done twice .......................................



A1
[b][i] DAN [/i] [/b]


:silly:
Posts: 3187
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Sydney, or @ newy on weekends

Post by RB zook »

thanks a1 i will hold off till i get my s3 rockhopper and then will
it be accurate :D
TOYZUKI 96 coily zook,lux diffs, 3 inch suspension lift,3 inch body lift, 33'sMTRS,series 4 hopper,power steer,twin air lockers,4 LINK front and rear,2 inch spacers(GOT WIDTH)
Posts: 125
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:54 am
Location: Seattle, Washington

Post by mtzook »

Easy way to get your speed settings right is have someone drive next to you and get on the phone with them and what we did was figured the RPM's at 90kph and 110kph, and went with that for how fast we were going in 5th gear.

40 and 60kph should be pretty easy to figure out. Just go slow.
My tires were rubbing in the front, so I trimmed the hood, and now they're fine...
Posts: 426
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:28 am
Location: batemans bay

Post by xtreem »

I was under the impression that the transfer gearing doesnt correct the speedo.?????????????????????????
User avatar
A1
Posts: 3451
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:57 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by A1 »

Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo
[b][i] DAN [/i] [/b]


:silly:
Posts: 9393
Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 11:51 am
Location: Brisbane

Post by antt »

just use a gps to check it with ;)
Posts: 1403
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:59 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by DaveS3 »

antt wrote:just use a gps to check it with ;)


Works for me, if you can try to use two different models to check it as they may have slightly different readings
Posts: 14187
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:09 pm
Location: Trip Trip Trappin' across a bridge

Post by Goatse.AJ »

Trouble is the Ministry of War and Finance drives bothe trucks at various times, so wanna keep it as simple as poss......espec. seein we're movin' back to Mexico, the Speed Police State.
bru21 wrote:What happens in goat, stays in goat!
Posts: 3269
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 1:11 pm
Location: melting gears

Post by greg »

A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:
DMA Founding Member #1 - Now Retired
Posts: 3269
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 1:11 pm
Location: melting gears

Re: speedo

Post by greg »

RB zook wrote:now i got 31's on my zook how much does that affect the speedo


Do a search RB - i'm pretty sure that i have posted up some whiz bang calculations for working this sort of stuff out. There'll be a link to it in the "buying a suzuki" topic.

Cheers
DMA Founding Member #1 - Now Retired
Posts: 3076
Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:09 am
Location: web wheelin' from sydney

Post by stumped »

hey RB, if ya end up getting the speedo calibrated, let us know where and how much etc....
___,,,,_('o')_,,,,____
part of the newy conspiracy...
User avatar
A1
Posts: 3451
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:57 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by A1 »

greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:


ok then smart ass then how duz that work out that wen i had 31's and series 1 my speedo was correct an it had standard ratios and the speedo wasnt touched (pauline hanson voice on PLEASE EXPLAIN )

I would assume it would of been close wen factory and it had 26"s or so on it ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[b][i] DAN [/i] [/b]


:silly:
Posts: 3269
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 1:11 pm
Location: melting gears

Post by greg »

A1MAV wrote:
greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:


ok then smart ass then how duz that work out that wen i had 31's and series 1 my speedo was correct an it had standard ratios and the speedo wasnt touched (pauline hanson voice on PLEASE EXPLAIN )

I would assume it would of been close wen factory and it had 26"s or so on it ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Take it easy dear... should i get you a panadol and a hot water bottle? :?

Okay - back to business... Your previous zook (which you still pretend to own so you can come and hang out with us cool people in the zook forum) was a coiler - my suggestion is that when you have changed over to a 1.3L transfer case (which you have since you are running a rockhopper right) - you have affected the reading that the speedo is getting from the x-fer.

i.e. the 1.3L case and speedo are set up differently to the coiler case and speedo.

Note that the 1.3L Widetrack and 1L NT are set up differently - they have different diff gears, but still have the same sized tyres - that means that either their x-fer case output for the speedo, or the speedo itself is different right?

How can we prove this? Well all we need is for someone to post up how many revs they use in a stock tyred coiler to do 100kms, then compare that to the 1.3L stock tyred sierra and that will prove the theory.

:ahem: it's my theory, i own it and all that it is and represents :ahem: :D
DMA Founding Member #1 - Now Retired
Posts: 4882
Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2002 8:36 pm
Location: Medowie, NSW

Post by redzook »

if you can't work out what speed u r doin at what RPM's u r shit ;) :finger:



and A1 settle down :lol:
and get your junk ready for some wheelin :twisted: :D
Team UNDERDOG #233
WERock Australia thanks to
[url]http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com[/url]
[url]http://www.rockbuggysupply.com[/url]
User avatar
A1
Posts: 3451
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:57 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by A1 »

greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:
greg wrote:
A1MAV wrote:Wen you have series 1 hopper it gives you 12% reduct high and series 3 is it 18 or 22? cant remember ive changed camps you forget real quick wen ya focus on another make.................if it changes high it will effect ya speedo


Sorry A1 - the other folks are correct... The speedo reading comes from the output side of the x-fer case and is therefore unaffected by changing the x-fer case gearing.

However, if you change the diff gears - well that's another story :cool:


ok then smart ass then how duz that work out that wen i had 31's and series 1 my speedo was correct an it had standard ratios and the speedo wasnt touched (pauline hanson voice on PLEASE EXPLAIN )

I would assume it would of been close wen factory and it had 26"s or so on it ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Take it easy dear... should i get you a panadol and a hot water bottle? :?

Okay - back to business... Your previous zook (which you still pretend to own so you can come and hang out with us cool people in the zook forum) was a coiler - my suggestion is that when you have changed over to a 1.3L transfer case (which you have since you are running a rockhopper right) - you have affected the reading that the speedo is getting from the x-fer.

i.e. the 1.3L case and speedo are set up differently to the coiler case and speedo.

Note that the 1.3L Widetrack and 1L NT are set up differently - they have different diff gears, but still have the same sized tyres - that means that either their x-fer case output for the speedo, or the speedo itself is different right?

How can we prove this? Well all we need is for someone to post up how many revs they use in a stock tyred coiler to do 100kms, then compare that to the 1.3L stock tyred sierra and that will prove the theory.

:ahem: it's my theory, i own it and all that it is and represents :ahem: :D




Well fair enough.......................but in this case if this right Rb wont have to change anything correct with 31"s on his coiler (And beleive me i dont wish i still owned my old coily it was a good beginner rig but i decided to grow up you should to and move onto sumthing more capable ) :roll: anyway back to business cause if this is so your ahem theory his speedo will also be correct just by fittin the gear driven case as i did ....................................so to help rb out instead of payin people out hold off doin anything to your speedo RB fit your gear driven case (with wat eva gear set you like! by other peoples comments) and as long as you run 31"s and standard gear ratio's your speedo will be spot on as MINE was ...................................

Sometimes its hard to be helpful :roll:




A1-MAV


Let the shite fight begin BRING IT AWN ........................ :armsup: .........


I yeah A box of panadol and carton of bourbon works wonders pleas add this next time to your list :!:
[b][i] DAN [/i] [/b]


:silly:
Posts: 3187
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Sydney, or @ newy on weekends

Post by RB zook »

thanks a1 you are a champ :armsup:


ill wait till i doo the transfer swap and i will see wat happens

hope you are rite a1 :D
TOYZUKI 96 coily zook,lux diffs, 3 inch suspension lift,3 inch body lift, 33'sMTRS,series 4 hopper,power steer,twin air lockers,4 LINK front and rear,2 inch spacers(GOT WIDTH)
User avatar
A1
Posts: 3451
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:57 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by A1 »

Well i wasnt the first time round so i will just wait for his reply i guess........................... :roll:




And i was a bit harsh with the zook comment there a tuff little truck and with the right mods they can be just as capable as anything else , i think we all know this ...........i was lettin off steam not enough bourbon and panadol i guess............................

But all the same bring it awn ;)

A1
[b][i] DAN [/i] [/b]


:silly:
Posts: 160
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:32 pm
Location: Nelligen via Batemans Bay

Post by nelligen »

I will be fitting rockcrawler to coily with 31s as soon as the gears turn up from calmini I think(and hope) gregs theory is correct and ill let you know the outcome. :idea:
Posts: 160
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:32 pm
Location: Nelligen via Batemans Bay

Post by nelligen »

nelligen wrote:I will be fitting rockcrawler to coily with 31s as soon as the gears turn up from calmini I think(and hope) gregs theory is correct and ill let you know the outcome. :idea:
gears have turned up at last , but the speedo still reads wrong , speedo reads 90 kph at approx 100 kph true speed , A1MAV , your correct reading speedo is hard to explain :? [/b]
User avatar
A1
Posts: 3451
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:57 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by A1 »

Not sure dude i had mine tested on the dyno at a local company to prove the calibration so that i could get my engineeers report i was runnin bfg muddys i know tyres even tho they are 31's can be slightly different in in circumference (height) so maybe this is the case if not just wait n let greg explain it he sees to know everything else ;)
[b][i] DAN [/i] [/b]


:silly:
Posts: 160
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:32 pm
Location: Nelligen via Batemans Bay

Post by nelligen »

A1MAV wrote:Not sure dude i had mine tested on the dyno at a local company to prove the calibration so that i could get my engineeers report i was runnin bfg muddys i know tyres even tho they are 31's can be slightly different in in circumference (height) so maybe this is the case if not just wait n let greg explain it he sees to know everything else ;)
I used the speedo drive gear from the gear driven case, did you maybe use the gear from the coily case ??? there has to be some explanation .
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 75 guests