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What Has Happened Here ??

Post by tigerz11 »

How did this happen ,,or how could it have happened

HAS THE ROPE BEEN SPOOLED ON CORRECTLY ??
HAS THE ROPE BEEN WOUND IN NOT EVENLY ???
Any thoughts??

pick 1 the rope is that tight it cannot be moved by hand


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pick 2 already can see the drum about 6 metres is off at this point

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pick 3
you can see how the rope has been pulled out of the crimp,,,what the hell has happened

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Re: What Has Happened Here ??

Post by bogged »

I'd say recovery on an angle, causing it to be all spooled to one side... at same time has had stress on the rope at all times pulling it on that one side/angle. then the rope when it relax's once stress is off it, all slides to the right covering the section making it hard to remove.

possibly recovering from high up on left hand side of car..
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Post by joeblow »

it has been spooled in under no load at one stage, then been used to recover at load, then causing the rope to tighten up and sink between layers causing it to 'get caught' between other strands. happens all the time when people don't recover correctly.
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Post by tigerz11 »

many thanks for your thoughts
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Post by ajsr »

joeblow wrote:it has been spooled in under no load at one stage, then been used to recover at load, then causing the rope to tighten up and sink between layers causing it to 'get caught' between other strands. happens all the time when people don't recover correctly.
X2 joe's spot on there I recon,it was loose and then had a decent load put on it cutting the rope through the layers.
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Post by chpd80 »

this is very common with synthetic rope as its smoother and more pliable it will slip down between loose layers when tensioned up much easier than steel cable will.

Pull it out (might need the weight of a vehicle) re-spool with tension and your good to go again.
lucky its not steel rope :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by weeman »

its called a birds nest quite common...

Just need to put lots of tension when releasing the rope and it should unwind it self..
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Post by RV80 »

You can put the winch back in the car and hook the rope around a recovery point on the bull bar and use the winch to unbind the rope.
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synthetic ropes

Post by dck7aok »

Just a heads up. All synthetic ropes should not be spooled and layered like fswr(steel) rope. layers should be crisscrossed to avoid this.....
The reason the lug has been pulled out is that the drum is smooth and doesn't grip the synthetic to aid in friction(like a capstan works) so load is very high on the lug. cheers
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Re: synthetic ropes

Post by vanbox »

dck7aok wrote:Just a heads up. All synthetic ropes should not be spooled and layered like fswr(steel) rope. layers should be crisscrossed to avoid this.....
The reason the lug has been pulled out is that the drum is smooth and doesn't grip the synthetic to aid in friction(like a capstan works) so load is very high on the lug. cheers
By "criss-crossed" do you mean side to side across the drum fast?

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Re: synthetic ropes

Post by RV80 »

vanbox wrote:
dck7aok wrote:Just a heads up. All synthetic ropes should not be spooled and layered like fswr(steel) rope. layers should be crisscrossed to avoid this.....
The reason the lug has been pulled out is that the drum is smooth and doesn't grip the synthetic to aid in friction(like a capstan works) so load is very high on the lug. cheers
By "criss-crossed" do you mean side to side across the drum fast?

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Yes thats what he means.
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Post by one_waz »

same thing happens when winding braid onto big fishing reels, unless its wound on tight it will bight into the spool and break
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