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What Has Happened Here ??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:12 pm
by tigerz11
How did this happen ,,or how could it have happened
HAS THE ROPE BEEN SPOOLED ON CORRECTLY ??
HAS THE ROPE BEEN WOUND IN NOT EVENLY ???
Any thoughts??
pick 1 the rope is that tight it cannot be moved by hand
pick 2 already can see the drum about 6 metres is off at this point
pick 3
you can see how the rope has been pulled out of the crimp,,,what the hell has happened
Re: What Has Happened Here ??
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:15 pm
by bogged
I'd say recovery on an angle, causing it to be all spooled to one side... at same time has had stress on the rope at all times pulling it on that one side/angle. then the rope when it relax's once stress is off it, all slides to the right covering the section making it hard to remove.
possibly recovering from high up on left hand side of car..
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:22 pm
by joeblow
it has been spooled in under no load at one stage, then been used to recover at load, then causing the rope to tighten up and sink between layers causing it to 'get caught' between other strands. happens all the time when people don't recover correctly.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:30 pm
by tigerz11
many thanks for your thoughts
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:33 pm
by ajsr
joeblow wrote:it has been spooled in under no load at one stage, then been used to recover at load, then causing the rope to tighten up and sink between layers causing it to 'get caught' between other strands. happens all the time when people don't recover correctly.
X2 joe's spot on there I recon,it was loose and then had a decent load put on it cutting the rope through the layers.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:53 pm
by chpd80
this is very common with synthetic rope as its smoother and more pliable it will slip down between loose layers when tensioned up much easier than steel cable will.
Pull it out (might need the weight of a vehicle) re-spool with tension and your good to go again.
lucky its not steel rope
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:23 pm
by weeman
its called a birds nest quite common...
Just need to put lots of tension when releasing the rope and it should unwind it self..
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:40 am
by RV80
You can put the winch back in the car and hook the rope around a recovery point on the bull bar and use the winch to unbind the rope.
synthetic ropes
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:41 pm
by dck7aok
Just a heads up. All synthetic ropes should not be spooled and layered like fswr(steel) rope. layers should be crisscrossed to avoid this.....
The reason the lug has been pulled out is that the drum is smooth and doesn't grip the synthetic to aid in friction(like a capstan works) so load is very high on the lug. cheers
Re: synthetic ropes
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:44 pm
by vanbox
dck7aok wrote:Just a heads up. All synthetic ropes should not be spooled and layered like fswr(steel) rope. layers should be crisscrossed to avoid this.....
The reason the lug has been pulled out is that the drum is smooth and doesn't grip the synthetic to aid in friction(like a capstan works) so load is very high on the lug. cheers
By "criss-crossed" do you mean side to side across the drum fast?
cheers
Re: synthetic ropes
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:48 pm
by RV80
vanbox wrote:dck7aok wrote:Just a heads up. All synthetic ropes should not be spooled and layered like fswr(steel) rope. layers should be crisscrossed to avoid this.....
The reason the lug has been pulled out is that the drum is smooth and doesn't grip the synthetic to aid in friction(like a capstan works) so load is very high on the lug. cheers
By "criss-crossed" do you mean side to side across the drum fast?
cheers
Yes thats what he means.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:26 pm
by one_waz
same thing happens when winding braid onto big fishing reels, unless its wound on tight it will bight into the spool and break