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Early rangie

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Early rangie

Post by beinthemud »

Theirs a Rangie on my road 4 door early V8 Cant remeber the model
no rust ,alternators had it batterys stoofed,Green, $900 is it worth it
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Post by beinthemud »

i better be carefull
I didnt mean this as an insult to rangies just thinking of buying it
I should of said is it a good deal and is it a good strong car as its would get hammered if i buy it
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Post by Bush65 »

Drive line strength and electrics are the main issues. Rear trailing arms need strengthening.
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Post by beinthemud »

cool thanks man
drive line you mean diffs ?
electrics not liking water ?
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Post by Bush65 »

The 2 pinion diff centre is weakest, can be fixed by fitting lockers (which have 4 pinions).

If the above is fixed the axles will break, can be fixed with aftermarket axles.

With stronger axles and larger tyres, cv's will fail (similar strength as stock hilux, nissan), they can be replaced with aftermarket cv's.

Then ring and pinion will fail, can be fixed by fitting nissan or 80 series axles. Alternatively fit hilux rear diff centre and 80 series front centre in the rover housings, with axles from jacmac or rovertracks.

Most people spend money fitting lockers and aftermarket axles for the rover diffs, then it is hard to throw those parts away when it becomes necessary to upgrade the diffs. If you keep tyres 33 or less and don't drive hard then that will be ok.

Early rangies have poor electrical wiring - they don't call Lucas the prince of darkness for nothing. Headlight wiring needs to be upgraded with relays, especially if the wattage of the globes is increased, or the switch will fail due to plastic around the contacts getting hot. No particular issues with water crossings - they are no worse than many others.

The 3.5 carbie V8 is not powerful. But they are long lived and reliable. Diaphrams in carbies and wear of distributor points are most likely to give problems.

Stretching of the timing chain retards the valve timing. Then wear of camshaft lobes.
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Post by cooter »

Bush65 wrote:The 2 pinion diff centre is weakest, can be fixed by fitting lockers (which have 4 pinions).

If the above is fixed the axles will break, can be fixed with aftermarket axles.

With stronger axles and larger tyres, cv's will fail (similar strength as stock hilux, nissan), they can be replaced with aftermarket cv's.

Then ring and pinion will fail, can be fixed by fitting nissan or 80 series axles. Alternatively fit hilux rear diff centre and 80 series front centre in the rover housings, with axles from jacmac or rovertracks.

Most people spend money fitting lockers and aftermarket axles for the rover diffs, then it is hard to throw those parts away when it becomes necessary to upgrade the diffs. If you keep tyres 33 or less and don't drive hard then that will be ok.

Early rangies have poor electrical wiring - they don't call Lucas the prince of darkness for nothing. Headlight wiring needs to be upgraded with relays, especially if the wattage of the globes is increased, or the switch will fail due to plastic around the contacts getting hot. No particular issues with water crossings - they are no worse than many others.

The 3.5 carbie V8 is not powerful. But they are long lived and reliable. Diaphrams in carbies and wear of distributor points are most likely to give problems.

Stretching of the timing chain retards the valve timing. Then wear of camshaft lobes.
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Post by beinthemud »

Yeah it was thanks for the information
might have to leave it there till they want $40 for it
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Post by DL »

Hi,

What year is it? Man or auto? They are cheap these days.

Bush and Cooter know their stuff, I just want to give you a slightly different perspective because you haven't said how you really want to use this potential purchase.

I have a 74 2 door that has had a newer (81) body put on it. It has a 350 Chev on gas and a C9 auto with the rsend of a LT 95.

It's quite a civilized daily driver (in my mind), goes interstate sometimes and gets driven as a 4WD. I look after it in 4WD (i.e. it doesn't get thrashed).

Still has stock 10 spline diffs and axles. I have spares but have not broken any 10 spline stuff. Yes I do like surprising the ricers at the lights in the city and it has towed over 5 tonnes.

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Post by beinthemud »

cool man well i prety much want to retire my bundy to the garage except
for famliy day trips to the forest ,Itll be used as a boys car (and girls) .it will be driven day trips and ill be honset driven as hard as i can but will be servised very well as i get parts realy cheap
I think its around 74 2 door
itll probably end up with 3inc lift and 35s
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Post by DL »

Well be patient then and wait for something that already has Maxi / Jac Mac / or Toy axle diff combos. They do come up as wrecks or parts or whole drivers. Be cheaper than converting.

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Post by Bush65 »

IMHO $900 is a lot for a 74.
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Post by DL »

Add a zero to that for one with no rust and matching engine number in the mother country. At least!

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Post by beinthemud »

IMHO $900 is a lot for a 74.

Add a zero to that for one with no rust and matching engine number in the mother country. At least! ?

No rust and engine numbers match
so does that make $900 cheap and $9000 the right price
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Post by DL »

Maybe $900 here, $9000 in England is what I was saying.

They salt the roads over there so rust free early 2 doors are rare these days.

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Post by Blown RR »

I just paid 600 for a good going 86.
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Post by chimpboy »

I agree that it's too much for a 74. It's not like older is better with these things.
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Post by beinthemud »

Thanks for the realy good advise
think i meat forget this one and look for a pootrol shorty
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