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turning 2wd in to 4wd?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:39 pm
by samedy-sam
i just want to know if its possible? if so what will i need? its a 08/09 ford ranger singel cab tray back with a 2.5 turbo diesel. and if i sorce all parts how much would a shop charge to do the conversion.

thanks sam

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:55 pm
by want33s
Most late model jap utes are built on a similar platform for ease of construction so I'd imagine it's just a matter of removing and replacing a few parts....
No idea as to cost.. I don't think it'll be cheap unless you can get used parts from a wreck/er somewhere.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:00 pm
by samedy-sam
well what parts would i be looking at? frond diff, 4x4 gearbox and tranfer case, front hubs, auto locking hubs???

Re: turning 2wd in to 4wd?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:08 pm
by bogged
samedy-sam wrote:i just want to know if its possible? if so what will i need? its a 08/09 ford ranger singel cab tray back with a 2.5 turbo diesel. and if i sorce all parts how much would a shop charge to do the conversion.

thanks sam
DOes it come in a 4wd option?
Chances are selling yours and buyign the 4wd would be as cheap with less headaches.
eg, tehre wouldnt be many 08/09 in wreckers to get 4wd spares from, and if there was, it would command top $$

lots to think of, is there space for a 4wd shifter inside the cab?
Will a Tcase fit without hitting body?
front diff etc, what a nightmare that could turn into to fit... arms, etc etc.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:43 pm
by RED60
Buy a 4wd version of what you want.... a conversion will be way too expensive and difficult... my 2c

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:28 am
by KiwiBacon
Usually the entire front suspension is different.

By the time you've changed everything necessary, it'd be easier and cheaper to just buy a 4wd.
Of course if you really need a hobby, then go for it. :cool:

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:55 am
by samedy-sam
nah i dont need a hobby haha i train 6 days/12 hrs a week, and dont like messing around with the new stuff :) thanks for the info guys i will look in to it more but i think its kinda straght forward the 2wd and 4wd models are identical besides hight and front trive train. the barnd new triton 2wd use 4x4 front hubs but with no diff or shafts going in to them.

but thanks for the help guys

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:35 am
by chimpboy
RED60 wrote:Buy a 4wd version of what you want.... a conversion will be way too expensive and difficult... my 2c
x2.

The chances of doing it cheaper than just buying a 4WD one are very slim. Depends how much you enjoy red tape too, as it would need a mod plate.

Re: turning 2wd in to 4wd?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:12 am
by joeblow
samedy-sam wrote:i just want to know if its possible? if so what will i need? its a 08/09 ford ranger singel cab tray back with a 2.5 turbo diesel. and if i sorce all parts how much would a shop charge to do the conversion.

thanks sam
if it was the hi-rise 4x2 than it could be done, but i suspect it is the lowered 2wd version and everything is different.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:19 am
by Jacked
samedy-sam wrote:nah i dont need a hobby haha i train 6 days/12 hrs a week, and dont like messing around with the new stuff :) thanks for the info guys i will look in to it more but i think its kinda straght forward the 2wd and 4wd models are identical besides hight and front trive train. the barnd new triton 2wd use 4x4 front hubs but with no diff or shafts going in to them.

but thanks for the help guys

LMAO the 2wd and 4wd ranger have a completly different engine.(unless its a high rise 2wd with a 3L) Its more then a "front diff and suspension lift".
By doing it you would be wasting your time. If you wanna trade yours in on a 4wd (it would be cheeper, easier and have some resale value down the track) give me a pm

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:40 am
by bogged
chimpboy wrote:
RED60 wrote:Buy a 4wd version of what you want.... a conversion will be way too expensive and difficult... my 2c
x2.

The chances of doing it cheaper than just buying a 4WD one are very slim. Depends how much you enjoy red tape too, as it would need a mod plate.
I dont think hes listening to what he doesnt want to hear.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:40 am
by samedy-sam
i have herd so rangers getting bad fuel econ and they why i am worryed about trading it in hahah cause i got lucky and got a good one it get over 700ks out of 52ltr dont want to trade it in on one that is getting shit fuel consumption but if its not possible or not worth it then there is no point in doing it.

thanks for all the help guys

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:39 am
by -Nemesis-
There's a good chance yours has different chassis, brakes, diffs (ratios), crossmembers, the lot. You're going to have to practically buy a 4WD Ranger to source all the stuff needed. You'll need gearbox, transfer, interior stuff like new center console/s, wiring harness to suit the 4WD gear, driveshafts (rear will be shorter), probably different sway bars.... Thats off the top of my head and cutting it short.

It'll also need engineering and Transport approval etc....


Not trying to be sour, but honestly it's a waste of money and time just because yours gets good economy. Mostly of which probably comes from the fact you have a lighter 2WD, without the 4WD driveline and bigger tyres anyway ;)

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:50 am
by Guy
-Nemesis- wrote:There's a good chance yours has different chassis, brakes, diffs (ratios), crossmembers, the lot. You're going to have to practically buy a 4WD Ranger to source all the stuff needed. You'll need gearbox, transfer, interior stuff like new center console/s, wiring harness to suit the 4WD gear, driveshafts (rear will be shorter), probably different sway bars.... Thats off the top of my head and cutting it short.

It'll also need engineering and Transport approval etc....


Not trying to be sour, but honestly it's a waste of money and time just because yours gets good economy. Mostly of which probably comes from the fact you have a lighter 2WD, without the 4WD driveline and bigger tyres anyway ;)
Or the added wind resistance.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:36 pm
by samedy-sam
yeah i will just have to look for a 4wd triton,ranger or hilux

thanks for all the help guys

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:06 pm
by chimpboy
samedy-sam wrote:yeah i will just have to look for a 4wd triton,ranger or hilux

thanks for all the help guys
The current Navara's a good deal.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:46 pm
by RO8M
chimpboy wrote:
samedy-sam wrote:yeah i will just have to look for a 4wd triton,ranger or hilux

thanks for all the help guys
The current Navara's a good deal.
don't they have the zd30?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:48 pm
by Guy
RO8M wrote:
chimpboy wrote:
samedy-sam wrote:yeah i will just have to look for a 4wd triton,ranger or hilux

thanks for all the help guys
The current Navara's a good deal.
don't they have the zd30?
yd25. I think ,, definitely not the Zd30

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:50 pm
by RO8M
damn, that was quick. I went away to the nissan site to find out (yeah right) and when i got back after learning nothing... cheers

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:41 pm
by grimbo
chimpboy wrote:
samedy-sam wrote:yeah i will just have to look for a 4wd triton,ranger or hilux

thanks for all the help guys
The current Navara's a good deal.
except they are awful pieces of crap offroad. D22 are ok but alot smaller

I'd go either a triton or a BT50/Ranger

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:55 pm
by want33s
Jacked wrote:

LMAO the 2wd and 4wd ranger have a completly different engine.(unless its a high rise 2wd with a 3L) Its more then a "front diff and suspension lift".
By doing it you would be wasting your time. If you wanna trade yours in on a 4wd (it would be cheeper, easier and have some resale value down the track) give me a pm
BOTH 2wd AND 4wd (Ranger and BT50) are available with 2.5 litre diesel or 3.0 litre diesel.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:46 pm
by Nissane
Stick a rear diff locker in it.
I heard that someone once put a diff locker in a 2wd navara and it performed as well as a 4wd

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:04 pm
by Luxo
want33s wrote:
Jacked wrote:

LMAO the 2wd and 4wd ranger have a completly different engine.(unless its a high rise 2wd with a 3L) Its more then a "front diff and suspension lift".
By doing it you would be wasting your time. If you wanna trade yours in on a 4wd (it would be cheeper, easier and have some resale value down the track) give me a pm
BOTH 2wd AND 4wd (Ranger and BT50) are available with 2.5 litre diesel or 3.0 litre diesel.
Not in australia, only ever seen 3.0 4x4's

http://www.mazda.com.au/Models/Current% ... BT-50.aspx

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:07 pm
by beinthemud
Theirs a 2wd to 4wd Toyo Conversion in the Member area
But I think He Had A Donar Car Realy Welldone the Result were cool and More Power To Him But Fark that For something to do In your spare time

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:05 pm
by zagan
mmm not too sure about the Navara D22 chasis but could be used in the gen2/3 pathfinder and other models.

The Navara D21 chasis is the same for 720, Terrano, Terrano 2, US/AUS Gen 1 Pathfinder, there's 6 petrol engines and 2/3 diesel emgines that are used in all the different model lines.

Some of the mounts across the D21 line are a bit different bewteen 2wd and 4wd, but I think this is to properly support the different body weights than 2wd/4wd setups.

Though far easier to just buy what your wanting rather than getting something your not quite wanting and living with it.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:52 pm
by want33s
Luxo wrote:
want33s wrote:
Jacked wrote:

LMAO the 2wd and 4wd ranger have a completly different engine.(unless its a high rise 2wd with a 3L) Its more then a "front diff and suspension lift".
By doing it you would be wasting your time. If you wanna trade yours in on a 4wd (it would be cheeper, easier and have some resale value down the track) give me a pm
BOTH 2wd AND 4wd (Ranger and BT50) are available with 2.5 litre diesel or 3.0 litre diesel.
Not in australia, only ever seen 3.0 4x4's

http://www.mazda.com.au/Models/Current% ... BT-50.aspx
Yes... believe it or not 4x4 Rangers are available with 2.5 or 3.0 diesel engines..
My father ordered his last month.. Delivery is 15th of this month. He optioned 3.0 at a $1850 premium over the 2.5.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:17 am
by bogged
Nissane wrote:Stick a rear diff locker in it.
I heard that someone once put a diff locker in a 2wd navara and it performed as well as a 4wd
:rofl: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:45 pm
by lump_a_charcoal
It had a corn flour locker if I remember correctly...

Re: turning 2wd in to 4wd?

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:44 pm
by fraser td42
samedy-sam wrote:i just want to know if its possible? if so what will i need? its a 08/09 ford ranger singel cab tray back with a 2.5 turbo diesel. and if i sorce all parts how much would a shop charge to do the conversion.

thanks sam
You just can't be serious!!
:lol:

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:06 pm
by MattGU
beinthemud wrote:Theirs a 2wd to 4wd Toyo Conversion in the Member area
But I think He Had A Donar Car Realy Welldone the Result were cool and More Power To Him But Fark that For something to do In your spare time
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ftopic162569.php