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rebuilding ZD30
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:29 pm
by TOJO2NISSAN
im chasing someone to rebuild my blown ZD30.
just wondering if anyone knows any numbers of people in brisbane area
cheers brendan
Re: rebuilding ZD30
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:33 pm
by bogged
What is your budget?
How much actually needs rebuilding? (head replace, pistons, main bearings etc?) or 1 gasket?
What actually needs rebuilding?
Complete new donk is $6k with warranty.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:23 pm
by TOJO2NISSAN
well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.
i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:49 pm
by mkpatrol
Id go the new donk, even if you bought ane exchange unit it doesnt come with ancillaries.
New is always better, we used to fit new 2.6 Astron engine in leiu of recoed units. They were much better & lasted longer.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:39 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
TOJO2NISSAN wrote:well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.
i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Yes, you are right, they are a bare motor but as bogged asked, what really needs replacing?
If your answer is everything in the motor - then I'm with bogged and mkpatrol akso, a total rebuild will be the same if not more than the new motor (when you add the labour).
There are a few members from the patrol 4x4 forum that have rebuilt the motors themselves (replaced the faulty bits) using an in chassis engine rebuild kit from engine australia which worked out relatively cheap (3k including the head).
You should be able to get the injection pump, turbo and aftercooler checked to see if they are ok.
Cheers
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:52 pm
by bogged
TOJO2NISSAN wrote:well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.
i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Firstly you need to work out what is wrong
waht your budget is
And how long you intend to keep it... if its long term and you "MUST" keep the grenade, then go for a crate donk. Thats your only option.. FULL REBUILD from someone else isnt going ot be any cheaper.
Yes that is - all the add ons, but you already have them.
I'd go a TD42 conversion, but you have been thru this in other threads already.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:06 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
bogged wrote:TOJO2NISSAN wrote:well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.
i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Firstly you need to work out what is wrong
waht your budget is
And how long you intend to keep it... if its long term and you "MUST" keep the grenade, then go for a crate donk. Thats your only option.. FULL REBUILD from someone else isnt going ot be any cheaper.
Yes that is - all the add ons, but you already have them.
I'd go a TD42 conversion, but you have been thru this in other threads already.
Just checked out some of the other threads myself bogged, he is looking at a minimum of 4 pistons, a head and possibly the turbo. That would be around 3k for the rebuild kit and the head + the labour. If the turbo is also required, this will be an expense no matter which way he goes.
It is one thing when you can rebuild it with a mate but when you need to pay someone to do the rebuild, the dollars mount up and the new donk starts looking viable
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:27 pm
by kane077
Just priced one from nissan for a customer. Its around the $9000 mark retail. Cost more than that to have it rebiult.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:49 pm
by bogged
kane077 wrote:Just priced one from nissan for a customer. Its around the $9000 mark retail. Cost more than that to have it rebiult.
You seem to pay more for them down that way.. they have been advertised on here for $6000-7000... in crates.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ft ... ight=group
and have been cheaper on Ebay
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:28 pm
by TOJO2NISSAN
well i just got off the phone to nissan parts at redcliffe, 12000 for the bare motor, they dont have a full rebuild kit available and would just have to see what parts were needed to make one up.
soooo is still a fooked decision
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:19 pm
by barbz
contact engines australia
http://www.engineaustralia.com.au/ for a price on their rebuild kit.
Paul
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:54 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:40 pm
by mkpatrol
Since when was the ZD30 a 6 Cyl
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:41 pm
by bogged
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:10 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
Ahhh, that explains where the parts I'm using as an ash tray go... Into that older style motor - two pistons too many I say ...
Right back at ya
Note: mkpatrol - you certainly left the door open for that one
Mental note... must be more weary of what I post ....
Cheers
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:14 pm
by bogged
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:19 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
Damn you.... I thought that I changed that post before you saw it
...
Oh, and I think that the red pill lasts longer for sure - but you are getting a bit too personal now
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:31 pm
by SHIFTY
I have two of these engines left so if I can be of help send me a PM.
Trev
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ft ... ight=group
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:59 pm
by mkpatrol
Tojo,this is the way to go
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:33 pm
by Yom
mkpatrol wrote:
Tojo,this is the way to go
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
I'll go one up on you even! I've got a 2.8... now THATS a boat anchor
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:58 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
mkpatrol wrote:
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire
my patience... You are way too humble
Cheers
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:56 am
by mkpatrol
whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:mkpatrol wrote:
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire
my patience... You are way too humble
Cheers
Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:01 pm
by bogged
mkpatrol wrote:whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:mkpatrol wrote:
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire
my patience... You are way too humble
Cheers
Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
hes just pissed that the tilt tray with blown zd30 goes faster than his.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:55 pm
by whitiepatrol4x4
bogged wrote:mkpatrol wrote:whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:mkpatrol wrote:
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire
my patience... You are way too humble
Cheers
Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
hes just pissed that the tilt tray with blown zd30 goes faster than his.
Mmmm, not sure you should be casting stones there... Isn't yours basically the same save the addition of a fancy hair drier and something that resembles a radiator that sits ONTOP of the motor - who was the genius that came up with that design on a 4wd
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:48 pm
by mkpatrol
bogged wrote:mkpatrol wrote:whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:mkpatrol wrote:
Whitie
Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire
my patience... You are way too humble
Cheers
Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
hes just pissed that the tilt tray with blown zd30 goes faster than his.
But Im alway out in front on trips so everybody can keep up......