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rebuilding ZD30

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rebuilding ZD30

Post by TOJO2NISSAN »

im chasing someone to rebuild my blown ZD30.

just wondering if anyone knows any numbers of people in brisbane area

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Re: rebuilding ZD30

Post by bogged »

What is your budget?

How much actually needs rebuilding? (head replace, pistons, main bearings etc?) or 1 gasket?

What actually needs rebuilding?

Complete new donk is $6k with warranty.
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Post by TOJO2NISSAN »

well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.

i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
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Post by mkpatrol »

Id go the new donk, even if you bought ane exchange unit it doesnt come with ancillaries.

New is always better, we used to fit new 2.6 Astron engine in leiu of recoed units. They were much better & lasted longer.
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

TOJO2NISSAN wrote:well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.

i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Yes, you are right, they are a bare motor but as bogged asked, what really needs replacing?

If your answer is everything in the motor - then I'm with bogged and mkpatrol akso, a total rebuild will be the same if not more than the new motor (when you add the labour).

There are a few members from the patrol 4x4 forum that have rebuilt the motors themselves (replaced the faulty bits) using an in chassis engine rebuild kit from engine australia which worked out relatively cheap (3k including the head).

You should be able to get the injection pump, turbo and aftercooler checked to see if they are ok.

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Post by bogged »

TOJO2NISSAN wrote:well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.

i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Firstly you need to work out what is wrong
waht your budget is

And how long you intend to keep it... if its long term and you "MUST" keep the grenade, then go for a crate donk. Thats your only option.. FULL REBUILD from someone else isnt going ot be any cheaper.

Yes that is - all the add ons, but you already have them.

I'd go a TD42 conversion, but you have been thru this in other threads already.
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

bogged wrote:
TOJO2NISSAN wrote:well i wanted to rebuild it totally, get everything done and then do everything i can to try and prevent it from happening again ie. boost controller, oil catch can, blocking the egr etc.

i believe the ones for 6k are just bare motor and then need turbo and pump and all the other shizza. i think!!
Firstly you need to work out what is wrong
waht your budget is

And how long you intend to keep it... if its long term and you "MUST" keep the grenade, then go for a crate donk. Thats your only option.. FULL REBUILD from someone else isnt going ot be any cheaper.

Yes that is - all the add ons, but you already have them.

I'd go a TD42 conversion, but you have been thru this in other threads already.
Just checked out some of the other threads myself bogged, he is looking at a minimum of 4 pistons, a head and possibly the turbo. That would be around 3k for the rebuild kit and the head + the labour. If the turbo is also required, this will be an expense no matter which way he goes.

It is one thing when you can rebuild it with a mate but when you need to pay someone to do the rebuild, the dollars mount up and the new donk starts looking viable :cry:
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Post by kane077 »

Just priced one from nissan for a customer. Its around the $9000 mark retail. Cost more than that to have it rebiult.
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Post by bogged »

kane077 wrote:Just priced one from nissan for a customer. Its around the $9000 mark retail. Cost more than that to have it rebiult.
You seem to pay more for them down that way.. they have been advertised on here for $6000-7000... in crates.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ft ... ight=group

and have been cheaper on Ebay
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Post by TOJO2NISSAN »

well i just got off the phone to nissan parts at redcliffe, 12000 for the bare motor, they dont have a full rebuild kit available and would just have to see what parts were needed to make one up.

soooo is still a fooked decision
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Post by barbz »

contact engines australia http://www.engineaustralia.com.au/ for a price on their rebuild kit.

Paul
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

barbz wrote:contact engines australia http://www.engineaustralia.com.au/ for a price on their rebuild kit.

Paul
Should be a similar price to this crowd http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NISSAN-PATROL-GU ... 81001r4697 $1,695
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Post by mkpatrol »

whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:
barbz wrote:contact engines australia http://www.engineaustralia.com.au/ for a price on their rebuild kit.

Paul
Should be a similar price to this crowd http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NISSAN-PATROL-GU ... 81001r4697 $1,695

Since when was the ZD30 a 6 Cyl :D
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Post by bogged »

mkpatrol wrote:
whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:
barbz wrote:contact engines australia http://www.engineaustralia.com.au/ for a price on their rebuild kit.

Paul
Should be a similar price to this crowd http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NISSAN-PATROL-GU ... 81001r4697 $1,695

Since when was the ZD30 a 6 Cyl :D
bout the same time they fixed the problems :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

Ahhh, that explains where the parts I'm using as an ash tray go... Into that older style motor - two pistons too many I say ... :finger: :finger: :finger: Right back at ya :armsup:

Note: mkpatrol - you certainly left the door open for that one :lol:

Mental note... must be more weary of what I post .... :P

Cheers
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Post by bogged »

whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:Ahhh, that explains where the parts I'm using as an as ash tray go... Into that old boat ancor motor - two pistons too many I say ...:finger: :finger: :finger: Right back at ya :armsup:
whats a boat ancor?
and which one lasts longer? :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

bogged wrote:
whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:Ahhh, that explains where the parts I'm using as an as ash tray go... Into that old boat ancor motor - two pistons too many I say ...:finger: :finger: :finger: Right back at ya :armsup:
whats a boat ancor?
and which one lasts longer? :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
Damn you.... I thought that I changed that post before you saw it :lol: ...


Oh, and I think that the red pill lasts longer for sure - but you are getting a bit too personal now :oops:
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Post by SHIFTY »

I have two of these engines left so if I can be of help send me a PM.

Trev

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Post by mkpatrol »

SHIFTY wrote:I have two of these engines left so if I can be of help send me a PM.

Trev

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Tojo,this is the way to go ;)


Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
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Post by Yom »

mkpatrol wrote:
SHIFTY wrote:I have two of these engines left so if I can be of help send me a PM.

Trev

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ft ... ight=group
Tojo,this is the way to go ;)


Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
I'll go one up on you even! I've got a 2.8... now THATS a boat anchor
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

mkpatrol wrote: Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire my patience... You are way too humble :armsup: :P

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Post by mkpatrol »

whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:
mkpatrol wrote: Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire my patience... You are way too humble :armsup: :P

Cheers

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Post by bogged »

mkpatrol wrote:
whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:
mkpatrol wrote: Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire my patience... You are way too humble :armsup: :P

Cheers

Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
hes just pissed that the tilt tray with blown zd30 goes faster than his.
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Post by whitiepatrol4x4 »

bogged wrote:
mkpatrol wrote:
whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:
mkpatrol wrote: Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire my patience... You are way too humble :armsup: :P

Cheers

Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
hes just pissed that the tilt tray with blown zd30 goes faster than his.
Mmmm, not sure you should be casting stones there... Isn't yours basically the same save the addition of a fancy hair drier and something that resembles a radiator that sits ONTOP of the motor - who was the genius that came up with that design on a 4wd :P
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Post by mkpatrol »

bogged wrote:
mkpatrol wrote:
whitiepatrol4x4 wrote:
mkpatrol wrote: Whitie :rofl:

Disclaimer: I only have a N/A TD42 GQ so I cant really throw stones so mine is really a boat anchor, I just couldnt let a chance go by :D
You drive a N/A TD42 and you admire my patience... You are way too humble :armsup: :P

Cheers

Hey, I enjoy the scenery.....
hes just pissed that the tilt tray with blown zd30 goes faster than his.

:oops:


But Im alway out in front on trips so everybody can keep up......
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