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Fixing tube snorkel

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:44 pm
by HuxLux
Can anyone show or tell me how the have fixed there tube snorkels to the pillar?

Ive been looking at it and cant seem to think of anything, theres really not much room to play with.

Oh its for a 3rd gen hilux! cheers guys.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:35 am
by berad
Weld a tab onto the snorkel, then put a nutsert in the A pillar.

Re: Fixing tube snorkel

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:38 am
by gotta_b_a_lux
HuxLux wrote:Can anyone show or tell me how the have fixed there tube snorkels to the pillar?

Ive been looking at it and cant seem to think of anything, theres really not much room to play with.

Oh its for a 3rd gen hilux! cheers guys.
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:46 am
by vrod
i bent up some aluminium, pop rivited it to the pillar and clamped that with hoseclamps, but mine has rubber bends

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:33 pm
by HuxLux
Ah i see :P

What thickness did you guys use?

And berad, what the hell is a nutsert? :?

Cheers guys.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:46 pm
by craz3d
A nutsert is a nut that you can insert into other materials, so you can screw something into the material.

Someone else can probably give a better description.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:22 pm
by pozman
its similar to a pop rivet, but has a thread on the inside of it

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:06 pm
by Stackson45
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Here is a cross section of a nutsert

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:58 pm
by smaddock
How do you install the nutserts into the metal? I've seen things like that in wood, easy enough just drill hole and bash insert in, but how does it work in metal? Couldn't you just drill and tap the holes?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:14 pm
by pozman
need a nutsert gun, drill a hole the right size much like a rivet, then clamp the nutsert in

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:05 pm
by macca81
also known as a rivnut, it is just like a pop-rivet, only it has a thread in it. like pozman said, it has a gun, again much like a rivet gun. easy done

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:44 pm
by Kitika
I used what looks like a long rubber tube (25mm) with a brass thread in the bottom. So when the bolt is tightened into the thread the rubber blows out as it is pressed up against the hole. So it basically works like a rivet but because it is rubber it has some shock type effect. Looks like this.
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:59 pm
by macca81
where ya get them from? i like that

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:49 pm
by HuxLux
Yeh i like that rubber job too.

The rivnut is a good idea, not really worth buying the gun and everything to use it for 2 bolts. May aswell just drill and tap.

I take it you can get the rubber ones in all sorts of sizes, really would only be able to get a 4 or 6mm bolt in there.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:02 pm
by Kitika
I got them from the local nut and bolt shop. I got them for about $1.50 each.
Here's a link with some dimensions but it's based in the UK.
http://www.gmt.gb.com/range/special_mou ... ntings.pdf

Mine were about 6mm thick from memory. I only used these on the pillar I used proper bolts with a backing plate on the bottom mounting for maximum strength and I could actually get bolts in there. I have used tek screws on my zook but they kept pulling out every time they touched a branch etc or just rattle out.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:43 pm
by Stackson45
The rivnuts (if you can get them) are probably the best for sheet metal. The rubber ones would work best in a hole in a material of a good few mm thick or more, so the rubber has a good sureface area to grip to, otherwise the thin sheet would eventually cut into the rubber i think.
I just bought a rivnut gun for $50 from uk (shipped) and the rivnuts are about 30c each, a bit exy for a few bolts but i reckon over time they will be handy.

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:23 pm
by Kitika
The rivnuts (if you can get them) are probably the best for sheet metal. The rubber ones would work best in a hole in a material of a good few mm thick or more, so the rubber has a good sureface area to grip to, otherwise the thin sheet would eventually cut into the rubber i think.
Having done about 20,000kms with the snorkel fitted and doing alot of corrigated roads in that time the rubber is still holding up well. The rivnuts would be good but I couldn't find anything out about them anywhere down here. The rubbers are only about $1.50 or so when I bought them and I bought some spares so if they do wear out it's an easy fix :) I wouldn't solely mount a snorkel with them because it will wear them out alot faster and won't be as strong.