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Hilux need decompression for turbo?
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:57 pm
by HTH
I've been told that i may need to lower the compression of my 2.8D hilux before adding a turbo.. is this true?
i've been told to put a thicker seal inbetween the tappet cover and the head, is that enough?
i have everthing else sorted out, just need to no if i have to sort this out before i set the turbo up.
Thanks, HTH
hilux
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:27 pm
by DR Frankenstine
Putting a thicker seal between the tappet cover and head will do Jack to the compression. A thicker shim and head gasket is whats needed to reduce compression. You shouldn't need to lower the compression on a diesel to fit a turbo. Diesels have such a high compression poking another 10psi in there wont hurt.
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:30 pm
by HTH
so its mainly with petrols that its important?
bolt the turbo on and go?? haha..
cheers, HTH
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:54 pm
by dumbdunce
there's lots of reasons not to. just turbo it. keep the boost moderate and keep the EGTs down.
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:33 pm
by Blinky900
I just put a turbo on my 2.8 and new head i didn't worry about the shim just put new head gasket' i'm running a conservative 8psi which keeps Egt down to below 500deg. Before and after dyno gave it a 37% power increase.. NO MORE CHANGING DOWN ALL THE TIME OR MORE TAKING HILLS IN 2ND I CAN NOW KEEP UP...
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:43 pm
by HTH
Cheers for the comments fella's.
turbo and go sounds good to me.
cheers, HTH
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:20 pm
by Matt_85Lux
Quick question on the turbo thing. I may be getting another hilux, same model as mine but a turbo diesel, is it worth while swapping the diesel pump over or is it the same as the one on my motor?
And so no one goes just swap motors, the motor in the turbo on has a knock in it where as mine does not
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:48 pm
by Mr DJ
I'm guessing it's an aftermarket turbo conversion as no 2.8 was turbo from factory.
If they are the same engine, then should swap over fine.
The turbo one should have a boost compensator on it to increase fuel as the turbo spools up. May need a vac/boost line for it
If theres nothing wrong with your pump why the change ? You will get a few horses and less black smoke (till the turbo spools up) from the turbo's pump but that's bout it.
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:55 pm
by Matt_85Lux
They are both 2.4. diesels, as far as I am aware it is a factory turbo but as i said only going on what i was told
Just wasn't sure if the turbo one were different or not or if I needed to use the turbo one
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:40 pm
by Mr DJ
Matt_85Lux wrote:They are both 2.4. diesels, as far as I am aware it is a factory turbo but as i said only going on what i was told
Just wasn't sure if the turbo one were different or not or if I needed to use the turbo one
Sorry, my mistake.
Only factory 2.4TD Hiluxes I know of are in Surf's.
Depends which 2.4TD
If it's from a 2.4TD, 2LT (before 8/90 ?), then will be all good just check out any vac lines running to the pump for the compensator.
If it's from a manual 2.4TD, 2LT-E (has EFI on the crossover pipe), then no ..... unless you use the ECU, fit a CAS to the side of the block and change the crank to suit the CAS + some wiring to stop it throwing codes.
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:27 am
by Matt_85Lux
Thanks for the Info, I'm pretty sure it isn't the 2LTE as it is an 85 model lux.
So it is worthwhile to swap them and keep my non-turbo one as a spare if it is a 2LT pump
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:17 pm
by Mr DJ
If you have the pump, I would swap it over.
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:12 pm
by dumbdunce
Matt_85Lux wrote:Thanks for the Info, I'm pretty sure it isn't the 2LTE as it is an 85 model lux.
So it is worthwhile to swap them and keep my non-turbo one as a spare if it is a 2LT pump
post pictures of both pumps and we can tell whether its worth swapping them or not. its not a small job, special tools are required to get the timing right, you need a puller to get the drive sprocket off etc..
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:28 pm
by macktuff
2.8 litre diesels were factory turboed as were 2.4 called 2lte turbo plus ecu 3lte
do a search there out there l noe of one my mate father owns the take off on it is excellent it was bolted to an r series box as well g52 cant handle power from wat l remember it's an r150 box
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:23 pm
by dumbdunce
macktuff wrote:2.8 litre diesels were factory turboed as were 2.4 called 2lte turbo plus ecu 3lte
do a search there out there l noe of one my mate father owns the take off on it is excellent it was bolted to an r series box as well g52 cant handle power from wat l remember it's an r150 box
the 2.8 (3L) was never sold with a factory turbo in any market. whatever your mates dad has, it is not a factory turbo 3L.
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:01 pm
by Mr DJ
macktuff wrote:2.8 litre diesels were factory turboed as were 2.4 called 2lte turbo plus ecu 3lte
do a search there out there l noe of one my mate father owns the take off on it is excellent it was bolted to an r series box as well g52 cant handle power from wat l remember it's an r150 box
I didn't believe you, but still did the search anyway .......
I still don't believe you, please post pics with bore size, crank length and the all important CAS in a factory 2.8 block !!
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:39 am
by berad
All this destruction of g52 box's if you drive like a d!ck you will break anything, i've PERSONALLY seen g52s take alot more torque than a 2.8td could dream of and have no problems, also for longer than a few weeks.
I think you talking about a 1kzte, which is a 3.0 diesel not a 3L.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:24 am
by bj on roids
i have a factory turbo and a 2.8 together.
Factory turbo was off 2.4, does that count??
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:44 pm
by berad
HAHA it sounds like it.