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exo cage legalities

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:40 pm
by k3lst
are exo cages legal in nsw? can someone please point me in the right direction? search comes up with mostly comp trucks only

Re: exo cage legalities

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:54 pm
by CWBYUP
k3lst wrote:are exo cages legal in nsw? can someone please point me in the right direction? search comes up with mostly comp trucks only
Heavy duty roof racks are.

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:48 pm
by MKNUT
i think you can get them mod plated as roof racks

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:13 pm
by mud_runner_GQ
its not a roll cage its a "ladder rack" ;) ;)

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:05 pm
by BIG GQ
Correct it is not an exo/roll cage it is a ladder rack

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:16 pm
by grimbo
or maybe you should just call the RTA and find out exactly what is and isn't legal. Just calling it a roof rack isn't going to cut it if they are illegal

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:27 pm
by BIG GQ
that's right mate just give em a call and find out the requirements and legalities for ladder racks

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:22 am
by grimbo
why the asumption they are illegal anyway? If built properly, ie don't obstruct line of vision or protrude too far from the body work then what's the problem. I never had any dramas wkth my exo on my Sierra even when it went over the pits at RTA to re register it a few times.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:46 am
by Harb
Exo cages are considered to be a hazard to the walking public and aren't allowed......

But it seems Ladder racks or heavy duty roof racks etc are fine, go for it and build a ladder rack ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:03 am
by oldmate
About as hazardous as a tow bar, or external mirrors. What about the bull bars with scrub bars running down to the side steps?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:32 pm
by berad
oldmate wrote:About as hazardous as a tow bar, or external mirrors. What about the bull bars with scrub bars running down to the side steps?
There's a million conflicting rta rules, and this is just another example, bend and twist the rules if you can get away with it.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:53 pm
by Wambat
aslong as in the end it gets plated, your not liable yes?? as a heavy duty roof/lader rack, being legal, and needing to be used, is legal with a mod plate, you should still be covered buy insurance yes?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:55 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Wambat wrote:aslong as in the end it gets plated, your not liable yes?? as a heavy duty roof/lader rack, being legal, and needing to be used, is legal with a mod plate, you should still be covered buy insurance yes?
I didn't think you could get a mod plate for a ladder rack??? However roll bars must be approved/plated to be legal. As discussed here (and elsewhere) it seems external cages are not recognised...

However re insurance. Regardless of whether the mod is plated, you need to inform your insurance and they need to note it down and OK it.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:00 pm
by Slunnie
Is that because internal roll cages have implications for head room, head injuries and depending on the design also restraint systems where exo cages do not?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:02 pm
by zookimal
Carry a ladder around to make it look the real deal.
ISUZUROVER wrote:You need to inform your insurance and they need to note it down and OK it.
Now you'll have cover when somebody thieves your ladder :D :D :D

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:24 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Slunnie wrote:Is that because internal roll cages have implications for head room, head injuries and depending on the design also restraint systems where exo cages do not?
I am sure that is the main reason. They want to check that everything that is padded should be, and that their aren't any other design issues.

Also, most states only allow 4-point cages, so they probably want to check that as well.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:48 pm
by Matt_85Lux
ISUZUROVER wrote:
Slunnie wrote:
Also, most states only allow 4-point cages, so they probably want to check that as well.
In Qld you can get more than a 4-point cage plated and legal. Mate has a full integrated cage in his VX (he does track days) and it's plated and fully legal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:00 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Matt_85Lux wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote: Also, most states only allow 4-point cages, so they probably want to check that as well.
In Qld you can get more than a 4-point cage plated and legal. Mate has a full integrated cage in his VX (he does track days) and it's plated and fully legal
QLD is one of the few states where you can. WA only allow 6-point if you have class B (rally) rego.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:56 pm
by Slunnie
Matt_85Lux wrote:
Slunnie wrote:
Also, most states only allow 4-point cages, so they probably want to check that as well.
In Qld you can get more than a 4-point cage plated and legal. Mate has a full integrated cage in his VX (he does track days) and it's plated and fully legal
I didn't write that.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:23 am
by ISUZUROVER
Some people can't quote...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:01 am
by macca81
in tas ya can get 6 point. depending on the position of the rear legs, the vehicle may be deemed to be a 2 seater only tho (if it impededs the back seats to much)

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:50 pm
by Matt_85Lux
ISUZUROVER wrote:Some people can't quote...
Sorry for not being a whizz bang computer/forum expert as you must be, but I'm only human and prone to a stuff up every now and again

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:23 pm
by Wambat
i am planing an exo cage, but apart from the bars from bull bar to sliders, and tray to sliders, i am going to figure out a way to make it all bolt on and off, so i can carry most of it, in the tray, then bolt it on when i am going out bush. that way if done correctly i can take it off if i need to run round the street.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:56 am
by MONGREL
I was told by an engineer recently that as long as it follows the lines of the original pannel work it would pass. (NSW)
Maybe try ringing around some engineers.