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Tug of war now problems

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:06 pm
by sierrafreak
I know this is supposed to be in the Isuzu/gmh section but thought it might help me in here as not many people would visit that section often(guessing)


A friend of mine has an RA rodeo and was playing tug of war with his brothers hilux.

Now when he accelerates the rear end seems to shift left and then when backs off it straightens back up.

Do they have a panhard rod that could be bent?
Or are they just held by the U-bolts on the leaf springs

Also could he have damaged the bushes in the springs thus causing this problem??

Any help would be much appreciated....

Chrz

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:09 pm
by Struth
Ummmm.....

They wern't tug of warring off the axles were they :roll:

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:14 pm
by nastytroll
sheared centre pin maybe?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:34 pm
by sierrafreak
no they were playing tug of war of tow bars.

Where is the centre pin?
If what you are refering to as the locating pin on spring pack to diff that is not damaged at all still in same place.

Come to think of it when my wheel bearings were stuffed in the front diff of my zook it used to do that hmmmm i wonder :neutral:

But i wouldnt think that would be it could it?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:40 pm
by chimpboy
:lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:56 am
by GRIMACE
very clever boys!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:40 am
by RockyF75
Who's got the sigline, "you gotta be tuff if your gunna act dumb"? :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:12 am
by joeblow
GRIMACE wrote:very clever boys!
yep.........a clash of pencils me thinks.

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:48 am
by v840
Maybe he's just wanting to die sideways?


Seriously, have a good look underneath. Check the suspension linkages and their bushes, as well as the springs, shackles etc. etc. and next time, just get them out and measure them. More humiliating maybe, but it's a lot safer and cheaper!

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:57 pm
by KiwiBacon
So who won? :D

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:02 pm
by 4bdan
KiwiBacon wrote:So who won? :D
The bloke that didn't get a towball to the skull...

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:25 pm
by sierrafreak
your a bunch of morons i ask a simple question about something and you lot carry on like im a f/uck wit.

Not my vehicle im not stupid enough to do it to my 4by


they said they were pissed and wanted to do it for fun,
as they are brothers i dont see how comparing there dick size would have anything to do with it!!!

and if you have a problem with my sig line f\ck you too seen worse ones on others.

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:45 pm
by joeblow
i don't think people are really having a go at you. but youre asking us to try help out f/wick mates doing silly things, thats going to come with some degree of ridicule.

sierrafreak wrote: they said they were pissed and wanted to do it for fun,
as they are brothers i dont see how comparing there dick size would have anything to do with it!!!
and yet here you are adding more fuel to the 'stupid is as stupid does' fire.


and yes i've had a mate who died sideways. not a pretty thing.

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:19 pm
by dogbreath_48
The only thing I can think of is a broken locator pin/bolt, broken u-bolt or severly warped and damaged spring...assuming a shackle hasn't come apart completely (which would be obvious).

The broken locator pin might not nessecarily be apparent at first glance - I'd be pulling the spring pack apart. Is there no sign of
components shifting? (scratching on bottom of leaf pack etc?)

edit. Just had another read. It could be that he's made a mess of the rear diff oran inner axle/hub, essentially converting to one wheel drive. This would cause the car to pull one way or the other on acceleration. Jack upthe rear and spin some wheels - I'm betting something is iffy

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:33 am
by BenoDiabolic
Does it have one shock facing the front and the other facing the rear ? It might just be the dampening action of the opposing shocks on the axle??

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:51 am
by v840
sierrafreak wrote:your a bunch of morons i ask a simple question about something and you lot carry on like im a f/uck wit.

Not my vehicle im not stupid enough to do it to my 4by


they said they were pissed and wanted to do it for fun,
as they are brothers i dont see how comparing there dick size would have anything to do with it!!!

and if you have a problem with my sig line f\ck you too seen worse ones on others.

Unwad the panties princess, no-one was having a go. If you take the time to read some of the replies you'll get your answers too. Post up idiotic behaviour, get idiotic responses, it's more or less Newton's 3rd law.

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:23 am
by Yom
sierrafreak wrote:your a bunch of morons i ask a simple question about something and you lot carry on like im a f/uck wit.

Not my vehicle im not stupid enough to do it to my 4by


they said they were pissed and wanted to do it for fun,
as they are brothers i dont see how comparing there dick size would have anything to do with it!!!

and if you have a problem with my sig line f\ck you too seen worse ones on others.
Kiwibacon asked who won.

Next time try raging bulls. Nudge both vehicles up to each other, bullbars to bullbars. Then accelerate, see who wins that one. Alcohol is optional but its the only logical way to settle a whos pencils bigger arguement when suffering from brotherly penis envy

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:16 pm
by sierrafreak
he has just had a arb air locker put in and they reckon that the springs and diff (all parts are all good)

So yeah not sure will have to have a look myself me thinks as i only got information of him as to what he did and whats wrong so tommorrow will be looking.

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:29 pm
by JWB
[quote="sierrafreak"]he has just had a arb air locker put in and they reckon that the springs and diff (all parts are all good)

If the locker was in before the EVENT,
then I would suspect a broken left axle could be the reason??

cheers

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:08 pm
by joeblow
sierrafreak wrote:he has just had a arb air locker put in

:rofl: ...............warranty VOID ;)

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:37 am
by optima
the warranty is only good for standard tyres i think :lol:

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:43 pm
by joeblow
optima wrote:the warranty is only good for standard tyres i think :lol:

wrong again..................

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:21 pm
by cruiser60series
happened to my mates troopy when U-bolt was loose and rear steering from the twisting force.

Make sure all is tight nor broken at spring plate. So there can be no twisting movement in the diff.

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:54 pm
by Shadow
joeblow wrote:
sierrafreak wrote:he has just had a arb air locker put in

:rofl: ...............warranty VOID ;)
why?

is an arb not able to take a bit of wheel spin?

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:13 pm
by optima
wat is the waranty????????????????????????????????

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:17 pm
by Struth
optima wrote:wat is the waranty????????????????????????????????
It's a two part warranty

Pt.1 concrete warranty, once you drive it off their or the installers concrete driveway, if it breaks it's your fault :D

Pt.2 concrete warranty, once you walk down their concrete path back to your car to take it home and install it, if it breaks it's your fault :D

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:02 am
by optima
that sucks

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:13 am
by 4bdan
sierrafreak wrote:your a bunch of morons i ask a simple question about something and you lot carry on like im a f/uck wit.

Not my vehicle im not stupid enough to do it to my 4by


they said they were pissed and wanted to do it for fun,
as they are brothers i dont see how comparing there dick size would have anything to do with it!!!

and if you have a problem with my sig line f\ck you too seen worse ones on others.
Here you go

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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:27 am
by sierrafreak
He brought it round the other day took a 30 second look at it found problem straight away!

As i said i was thinking front end as when wheel bearings were gone in my zook did similar thing..

So therefore when problems are in the rear end of vehicle doesnt necessarily mean its broken in the rear end

Funny how profesionals had it on hoist for a day and another lot with it for half a day and couldnt find it.

Lay on ground slide under front look for about 10 seconds work out what it could be then realise i was right.

the steering rack on a rodeo is a sh!t design the D bracket on lh side bent up-wards and was moving the front wheel in and out as it went up and down cause rear end to sway left and right over bumps.

Pays to look at something before asking others.

Thanks for the help though.

Ps the locker was not in when he done this and niether won they just dug holes and sat there.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:24 am
by Slunnie
sierrafreak wrote: Ps the locker was not in when he done this and niether won they just dug holes and sat there.
:lol: We did a Defender Vs Discovery....... same result, we both went straight down. :oops: