Outer Limits 4x4 Board

is there such a rim made that you can run both ways round so you could have a -44 offset and a +44 offset just by spinning them

no....


the only thing that i can think would work is t have the rim center (bolt pattern) something that you can un bolt from the rest of the rim so it can be flipped around and bolted back.

yeah but that would be a bit obvious and another set of bolts to come loose.

Havent seen it on luxs etc and not with an offset as large as 44mm but some rims can be flipped, they need a very flat plate, not curved like you see on hilux sunnies.

My mates sierra rims can be run both ways - they have the stud counter sink on both faces.

+ 1. Have flipped rims on my sierra before. They were only narrow rims, unsure if it would be possible on a wider rim.

No doubt could get one made up.

Never seen any . . .


But I like the idea !

stock 4runner wrote:is there such a rim made that you can run both ways round so you could have a -44 offset and a +44 offset just by spinning them

The thickness of the centre would kick in so it would be +44 vs -28 (or whatever) wouldn't it? Not that this matters.

There might be some alloys that would be able to do this out of the box I would think, although they might look shiat.

If you went to a 3-piece rim then anything is possible.

The issues with just swapping the rim over are:
1. Enough spacing on the rim face to clear brakes when flipped
2. Nut style, would need to be tapered on both side of the rim, or mags machined on both sides.
3. Air valves are generally on one side of the rim, which is easily resolved if running tubeless tires.

Assuming that you address these three, there is no reason.

- David.

Dirty wrote:If you went to a 3-piece rim then anything is possible.

The issues with just swapping the rim over are:
1. Enough spacing on the rim face to clear brakes when flipped
2. Nut style, would need to be tapered on both side of the rim, or mags machined on both sides.
3. Air valves are generally on one side of the rim, which is easily resolved if running tubeless tires.

Assuming that you address these three, there is no reason.

- David.

Pardon my ignorance but how would you pump up your tubeless tyres without a valve of some sort somewhere?

DAMKIA wrote:

Dirty wrote:If you went to a 3-piece rim then anything is possible.

The issues with just swapping the rim over are:
1. Enough spacing on the rim face to clear brakes when flipped
2. Nut style, would need to be tapered on both side of the rim, or mags machined on both sides.
3. Air valves are generally on one side of the rim, which is easily resolved if running tubeless tires.

Assuming that you address these three, there is no reason.

- David.

Pardon my ignorance but how would you pump up your tubeless tyres without a valve of some sort somewhere?

I assume he means two valves, one on each side? Easy with tubeless.

the valve would not be an issue to me

it won't help you being 6 stud.. but the alloy rims from a lada niva can be flipped and suit old f100's and sierras/rocky's etc...

stock 4runner wrote:the valve would not be an issue to me

its a total pia on the sierra

My 1st Sierra stock rims were reversible, ran them on the back like that for ages. Airing up n down was a pain, especially in mud....couldn't do fronts as they hit the disc calipers

There is a number of ways it could be done..
if you can handel the extra weight, you can run a double rim centre..

If you have a very thick rim centre with double the amount of wheelnut holes each second hole having the taper on the opposing side. Sounds to much like hard work.

why...
Assuming you want the offset for 4x4 work, you shouldn't need the taper on that side, if you do want it, double taper the holes..
no need to run a thick centre or double the holes..

It would be worth it if you had some benefit from the extra track width off-road, but wanted to be strictly legal on-road. Less hassle than a second set of wheels.

Pity you can't just flip them to change the diameter.

How good would it be if someone invented "tread wraps", like snow chains but actually a second inflatable tyre that wraps around your 31" ATs and turns them into 35" extreme mud terrains. Slip them on, pump them tight, and off you go.