Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Had the most awesome day 4wding outside of ballarat yesterday......
Untill my 80 series went ""CLUNK""
It goes fowards in low, i can put it in high and activate the centre diff button,, but if i turn the centre diff off i loose all drive.....
Can anyone guess what i have broken?

CV or axle shaft.

My guess is you busted a rear axle, and when your in low with the centre diff lock activated its driving off the front wheels only. This is all guessing u have no diff locks etc. If u break an axle on an lsd rear u will lose all drive if not in 4wd because all the powers going to the broken axle, just like a spinning wheel.

Thats a bit of a relief.. was hoping c.v or a shaft..
Think i will leave it to ballarat toyota on wednesday anyway..
Phew!

would more than likely be a CV, or maybe the front diff centre. highly unlikely that u have busted a rear axel!

crankycruiser wrote:would more than likely be a CV, or maybe the front diff centre. highly unlikely that u have busted a rear axel!

Why would he lose all drive if the centre diff lock is off then?

nayto wrote:

crankycruiser wrote:would more than likely be a CV, or maybe the front diff centre. highly unlikely that u have busted a rear axel!

Why would he lose all drive if the centre diff lock is off then?

coz that still happens when you blow a CV or front axel if its a full time 4wd

Ah i see, if im wrong i stand corrected. Just saying that cos its happened to me before, driving along doing nothing wild at all and lost all drive, just like it went into neutral, ended up being a rear axle. They can be quite weak

nayto wrote:Ah i see, if im wrong i stand corrected. Just saying that cos its happened to me before, driving along doing nothing wild at all and lost all drive, just like it went into neutral, ended up being a rear axle. They can be quite weak

usually the only reason rear axels break is due to the wheel bearings either failing or way out of adjustment, and usually they will break the studs on the hub and spit the axel out so its pretty obvious..

u must been very unlucky with ur axel.. I've been running 38's for 7 years and never busted an axel.

crankycruiser wrote:

nayto wrote:Ah i see, if im wrong i stand corrected. Just saying that cos its happened to me before, driving along doing nothing wild at all and lost all drive, just like it went into neutral, ended up being a rear axle. They can be quite weak

usually the only reason rear axels break is due to the wheel bearings either failing or way out of adjustment, and usually they will break the studs on the hub and spit the axel out so its pretty obvious..

u must been very unlucky with ur axel.. I've been running 38's for 7 years and never busted an axel.

I have a rear 80 axle at home that i replaced because it had seriously twisted splines. running 37's and a warm turbo diesel with lockers. I'm pretty sure that it was going to be toast if i left it in

rockcrawler31 wrote:

crankycruiser wrote:

nayto wrote:Ah i see, if im wrong i stand corrected. Just saying that cos its happened to me before, driving along doing nothing wild at all and lost all drive, just like it went into neutral, ended up being a rear axle. They can be quite weak

usually the only reason rear axels break is due to the wheel bearings either failing or way out of adjustment, and usually they will break the studs on the hub and spit the axel out so its pretty obvious..

u must been very unlucky with ur axel.. I've been running 38's for 7 years and never busted an axel.

I have a rear 80 axle at home that i replaced because it had seriously twisted splines. running 37's and a warm turbo diesel with lockers. I'm pretty sure that it was going to be toast if i left it in

ruff bastard have u ever busted one tho?

dont drive it until you know what is broken. A broken CV can jam up and make it almost impossible to steer. Not something you want to have happen on road.

Thats what happened once, spat the studs, then i drilled it out an put bigger studs in it, and next time the axle just sheared, (and rolling 100 metres after it broke made it a PITA to get out, welded itself to the inside of the housing) Maybe i was just unlucky.

will be interesting to see how this problem pans out as my Landcruiser has just done the same thing!

busted a cv and did the same thing... it did trash the abs sensor too which was a pita

Think i will leave it to ballarat toyota on wednesday anyway..

You'd be paying for the privelage at a Toyota dealer I'd say !!

MM $$$ yes,, but had no luck finding anyone to get it done before wednesday... I just hope they aren't like jacob toyota in wodonga!

Ohh p.s,, ill put up what was wrong with my 80,, and $$$$ when i find out..
Thanks all for your suggestions so far too!

Just for a giggle, price a genuine cv from toyota. Freaking exhorbatant. Somewhere around the $900 mark off memory.

$600 from Toyota at Maitland-when i can get one complete with shaft for $200.

is the $200 one Chinese or Japanese made

I've had this issue with my cruiser when i replaced them with Chinese cvs.

shattered two cvs in two trips not doing anything too hard. sourced some Japanese made cvs and haven't had an issue

not saying to go Toyota cv's but just make sure that the ones u replace them with are of Japanese build


My mate in his 100 series did a cv. he lost all drive with CDL out because its just like a diff it'll send drive to the end with the least resistance.

ILL ASK 4 JAP PARTS,, THANKS,,,
NO EYED DEER ON PARTS OR PRICE TILL THEY STRIP IT.. GOOD OL TOYOTA BOYS... PMSL

mate had the same thing happen to mine, ended up being the left front
hub ( manual ) let go. sounds strange but cannot drive it unless centre lock is on.

I think you will find if you put manual hubs on the front you can't drive unless the centre lock is on. or hubs are locked in.

mada1234 wrote:ILL ASK 4 JAP PARTS,, THANKS,,,
NO EYED DEER ON PARTS OR PRICE TILL THEY STRIP IT.. GOOD OL TOYOTA BOYS... PMSL

Dont Toyota dealers use only Toyota parts?

It would have to be a minimum $1k quote??

davids wrote:mate had the same thing happen to mine, ended up being the left front
hub ( manual ) let go. sounds strange but cannot drive it unless centre lock is on.

I think you will find if you put manual hubs on the front you can't drive unless the centre lock is on. or hubs are locked in.

but mine has no drive at all...even with CDL on...gonna start checking it out wednesday afternoon. :(

but i think we have eliminated the gearbox tonight

Its only gonna b a diff centre, front axle shaft or c.v.... only time will tell
the noise reminded me of when i crunched rear diff centre in old 60 series i used to have.. i drove around for a day with no rear tailshaft and the front hubs in......
Ahhhh for a simple fwd...... awww dammit,,, 80's much better,,, Yeahhhh!
Even if it is busted....

ONE FRONT AXLE SHAFT BUSTED,,, LOOKING $530.00 FITTED BY TOYOTA... THEY GOT INTO DO IT EARLY, AS IT WAS BOOKED IN FOR WEDNESDAY....
4WD MEYHEM PIT, JUST OUT OF BALLARAT, LOOK OUT IM COMING BACK!!!!!

Dread to think how much it would of cost at Wodonga,,, considering their asking price for a dash clock was $460 and i could get the same at Wangaratta toyota for $390 odd... Out of curiousity ill price a clock at ballarat when i pick up the battletruck.

i hope i am as lucky as you

but then i have a hubby who is pretty mechanically minded-so i will get out of it for whatever part it is that is broken replaced...might give him some love and affection too

Whishing i was home with tools,, cant do much except for get someone to do the job for me while im on holidays..
They must be getting the part hand made for me,, or importing it from japan...... come on guys,, i wanna go back to the 4wd meyhem pit while im still in town..