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front drive shaft with ruff???????
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:32 pm
by lux_kid
hey guys just woundering what to do with my front drive shaft as i have done a ruff converson and the front shaft is way to short.
i want some thing balanced as i want to do high speeds in 4x4 (eg. up the beach) i have searched and it seems i can only find box shafts that ribrate at 60klms
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:28 pm
by tufflux88
cut it just after the front uni and weld some pipe in the same diameter the length you need.then get it balanced at a driveshaft place.if youve done it properly(square) then it should balance fine and wont vibrate.i didnt bother balancing mine and havent noticed any vibration.
or get a driveshaft spacer.
personally the pipe is cheaper
drive shaft
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:10 pm
by blackarrowilly
Or cut the of the doulbe cardan joint of your front drive shaft and get a rear tail shaft and cut it to the lenght you require for the ruff and weld the doulbe cardan joint to the end you cut.Mark the rear shaft were the rear uni phase was on your cut line.So when you weld the carden joint on its in the same phase spot.Hopefully the balance it's to far out.
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:51 am
by lux_kid
sorry for the bumb question but what is the uni phase and any pic's would help
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:25 pm
by blackarrowilly
It's the alighment of the uni's at each end to each other.(hope that makes sence!!)
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:32 pm
by 4RUNNER_01
You normally need a longer spline shaft with RUF so extending it may not help that's why most people use RHS to get the long slip not necessarily the extra length.
and not many people need to go faster than 60km/h in 4WD even on sand if you can safely go that speed you can usually drive in 2WD
Just my 2c
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:20 pm
by lux_kid
so does any one know if a rear shaft would have enought slip for ruff or even how much slip a rear shaft has, thanks,,,
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:05 am
by yamaha__308
If you're getting any sort of decent flex, you'll need a shaft with more slip than the stock front or rear slip joint can provide. My RHS shaft is great until about ~65 kays..
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:59 pm
by lux_kid
yer the flex is great
what about a long slip joint form locktup i am guessing they would be able to be balanced, just there $500
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:20 am
by craz3d
4RUNNER_01 wrote:You normally need a longer spline shaft with RUF so extending it may not help that's why most people use RHS to get the long slip not necessarily the extra length.
and not many people need to go faster than 60km/h in 4WD even on sand if you can safely go that speed you can usually drive in 2WD
Just my 2c
Yeah, this is true except for when you can't be bothered unlocking your hubs when driving on the tarmac between tracks/areas.
To the OP:
http://locktup4x4.com.au/hilux-solid-fr ... t-305.html
If you get that you can make it into any length driveshaft you need with enough tubing of the right internal diameter.
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:01 pm
by lux_kid
does any one know the cost of getting a shaft balanced
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:51 pm
by yamaha__308
craz3d wrote:4RUNNER_01 wrote:You normally need a longer spline shaft with RUF so extending it may not help that's why most people use RHS to get the long slip not necessarily the extra length.
and not many people need to go faster than 60km/h in 4WD even on sand if you can safely go that speed you can usually drive in 2WD
Just my 2c
Yeah, this is true except for when you can't be bothered unlocking your hubs when driving on the tarmac between tracks/areas.
To the OP:
http://locktup4x4.com.au/hilux-solid-fr ... t-305.html
If you get that you can make it into any length driveshaft you need with enough tubing of the right internal diameter.
Fark that at $500.. They're shite anyway:
http://www1.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803090
RHS shaft will cost you $20 in steel.
If you really want a good balanced long slip driveshaft go to someplace decent:
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:15 pm
by johnsy86
thats about the creeper joints nothing to do with the actual shaft, have u used one ?
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:04 am
by locktup4x4
craz3d wrote:4RUNNER_01 wrote:You normally need a longer spline shaft with RUF so extending it may not help that's why most people use RHS to get the long slip not necessarily the extra length.
and not many people need to go faster than 60km/h in 4WD even on sand if you can safely go that speed you can usually drive in 2WD
Just my 2c
Yeah, this is true except for when you can't be bothered unlocking your hubs when driving on the tarmac between tracks/areas.
To the OP:
http://locktup4x4.com.au/hilux-solid-fr ... t-305.html
If you get that you can make it into any length driveshaft you need with enough tubing of the right internal diameter.
The kit is 399.00 to your door.
Jason
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:01 am
by lux_kid
$399 plus taking it to some one to cut and weld up.
i think i can remember i sign i seen at cruiser park superiour allinments or some thin has any one used them before
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:27 am
by yamaha__308
johnsy86 wrote:thats about the creeper joints nothing to do with the actual shaft,
This is true.
johnsy86 wrote:have u used one ?
Nope, but in general, if lots people are ranting about something that's shit, then there's no chance I'll buy it and hope that they're wrong...