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transfer reduction

Tech talk for Hilux

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Post by adrian »

Has the hilux gear transfer case got a lower ratio than the chain case ??or is it the same . Or can you buy gears for the transfer case that lowers the ratio in high 4 as well as low 4 , or do all the gear sets only cater for low range .
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Post by toyrex »

chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range
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Post by 4sum4 »

toyrex wrote:chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range
There is a slight change in high range and also in reverse for the gear driven only!
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Post by HIL01X »

4sum4 wrote:
toyrex wrote:chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range
There is a slight change in high range and also in reverse for the gear driven only!

4sum4, I've read this 10 times and i have no idea what you are saying!
High range is 1:1 and doesn't change with low range gears.
I have Marks gearmaster gears, 3.74 in low range
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Post by ausyota »

I have the Marks gears too.
Nice low range reduction without being so low that there is gap between low 4th and high 1st.
Been thinking that duals might be nice though :twisted: .
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Post by 4sum4 »

HIL01X wrote:
4sum4 wrote:
toyrex wrote:chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range
There is a slight change in high range and also in reverse for the gear driven only!

4sum4, I've read this 10 times and i have no idea what you are saying!
High range is 1:1 and doesn't change with low range gears.
I have Marks gearmaster gears, 3.74 in low range


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Post by RUFF »

Rock hoppers do not give a reduction in High Range in a Hilux Transfer case. It is not possible as High range runs straight out the back of the transfer there is no gear set to reduce through. High range in a hilux Transfer no mater what hilux transfer you use is 1:1. You can add any low range reduction set you like but the High range remains at 1:1.
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Post by NICK »

I have seen rockhopper advertise that there gears give a 5% over drive in high range, it has got me fucked how. IF some can explain/prove it im all ears.



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Post by ausyota »

NICK wrote:I have seen rockhopper advertise that there gears give a 5% over drive in high range, it has got me ***** how. IF some can explain/prove it im all ears.



NICK

That is true of some transfer cases ie landcruiser but not a hilux one.
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Post by NICK »

ausyota wrote:
NICK wrote:I have seen rockhopper advertise that there gears give a 5% over drive in high range, it has got me ***** how. IF some can explain/prove it im all ears.



NICK

That is true of some transfer cases ie landcruiser but not a hilux one.
AS for details NFI ask someone smart :)
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yeah it makes sense and is easy to understand in the cruisers, patrols and even seirras, but i dont see how in hilux


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Post by duncan »

If your going to do twin transfer cases talk to Christian gos by CBR on this board hes running them allready behind a holden injected v8only guy in Wa to do so sofar that i no of
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Post by dumbdunce »

NICK wrote:

yeah it makes sense and is easy to understand in the cruisers, patrols and even seirras, but i dont see how in hilux


NICK


it makes no more sense in a patrol transfer than in a hilux - they drive straight through like a hilux in high range.

if anyone is claiming any ratio change in high range in a straight through high range transfer case, it's a case of "marketing", that is, a "lie"
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Post by Shorty40 »

The 68% Marks gears for my cruiser are overdrive in High range by 1.08 - I think :?

I would have preferred a reduction like the sierras for the bigger tyres :cool:
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Post by dumbdunce »

marks have an underdrive and overdrive high range set for cruisers - what possessed you to go the overdrive?? that would suck on the road with bigger tyres.
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Post by 4sum4 »

Yeah I understand what your saying but it feals like there is a reduction in high range and in reverse like before i got them fitted I could hardly take off in high range with 35" tyres and now I can take off in high range with 36" tyres :?
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Post by Shorty40 »

dumbdunce wrote:marks have an underdrive and overdrive high range set for cruisers - what possessed you to go the overdrive?? that would suck on the road with bigger tyres.


Because they are the lower, low range gearset (68%) :cool:

To tell the truth, with the 4 speed it is not too bad on the road. Runs about 2400 rpm @ 100kph.

The 4.1s and the V8 push the 38s along quite nicely. In fact it launches quite hard for a big rig :twisted:
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Post by dumbdunce »

Shorty40 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:marks have an underdrive and overdrive high range set for cruisers - what possessed you to go the overdrive?? that would suck on the road with bigger tyres.


Because they are the lower, low range gearset (68%) :cool:

To tell the truth, with the 4 speed it is not too bad on the road. Runs about 2400 rpm @ 100kph.

The 4.1s and the V8 push the 38s along quite nicely. In fact it launches quite hard for a big rig :twisted:


if you have the lower low range gearset then you have 8% UNDERdrive in high range; launch and be happy.

the overdrive high range gears have the higher low range.
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Post by NICK »

dumbdunce wrote:
NICK wrote:

yeah it makes sense and is easy to understand in the cruisers, patrols and even seirras, but i dont see how in hilux


NICK


it makes no more sense in a patrol transfer than in a hilux - they drive straight through like a hilux in high range.

if anyone is claiming any ratio change in high range in a straight through high range transfer case, it's a case of "marketing", that is, a "lie"



yeah i thought about it and your right, maybe on the dirty old g60 and mq that are remote it is possible.

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Post by duncan »

Adrian another guy that i wheel with sometimes just finished installing dual cases to his four runner names Dannial runs a v6 very tall on 35s might becomming on the weekend
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Post by maty »

ausyota how much was supply and fit? and how much reduction do you get in first... does it give the ratios as if 3rd low range became 5th low range.

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Post by ausyota »

Details on marks gears can be found here - http://www.marks4wd.com/Hilux-extra-low-tc-gears.htm
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Post by basketcase »

If anyone wants duals look in the for sale section.
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