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Has the hilux gear transfer case got a lower ratio than the chain case ??or is it the same . Or can you buy gears for the transfer case that lowers the ratio in high 4 as well as low 4 , or do all the gear sets only cater for low range .

chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range

toyrex wrote:chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range

There is a slight change in high range and also in reverse for the gear driven only!

4sum4 wrote:

toyrex wrote:chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range

There is a slight change in high range and also in reverse for the gear driven only!

4sum4, I've read this 10 times and i have no idea what you are saying!
High range is 1:1 and doesn't change with low range gears.
I have Marks gearmaster gears, 3.74 in low range

I have the Marks gears too.
Nice low range reduction without being so low that there is gap between low 4th and high 1st.
Been thinking that duals might be nice though .
Paul.

HIL01X wrote:

4sum4 wrote:

toyrex wrote:chain drive is lower
geardrive t case 2.26
chaindrive t case 2..5
Low gears only on low range

There is a slight change in high range and also in reverse for the gear driven only!

4sum4, I've read this 10 times and i have no idea what you are saying!
High range is 1:1 and doesn't change with low range gears.
I have Marks gearmaster gears, 3.74 in low range

Sorry! RockHoppers do

Rock hoppers do not give a reduction in High Range in a Hilux Transfer case. It is not possible as High range runs straight out the back of the transfer there is no gear set to reduce through. High range in a hilux Transfer no mater what hilux transfer you use is 1:1. You can add any low range reduction set you like but the High range remains at 1:1.

I have seen rockhopper advertise that there gears give a 5% over drive in high range, it has got me fucked how. IF some can explain/prove it im all ears.



NICK

NICK wrote:I have seen rockhopper advertise that there gears give a 5% over drive in high range, it has got me ***** how. IF some can explain/prove it im all ears.



NICK

That is true of some transfer cases ie landcruiser but not a hilux one.
AS for details NFI ask someone smart
Paul.

ausyota wrote:

NICK wrote:I have seen rockhopper advertise that there gears give a 5% over drive in high range, it has got me ***** how. IF some can explain/prove it im all ears.



NICK

That is true of some transfer cases ie landcruiser but not a hilux one.
AS for details NFI ask someone smart
Paul.

yeah it makes sense and is easy to understand in the cruisers, patrols and even seirras, but i dont see how in hilux


NICK

If your going to do twin transfer cases talk to Christian gos by CBR on this board hes running them allready behind a holden injected v8only guy in Wa to do so sofar that i no of

NICK wrote:

yeah it makes sense and is easy to understand in the cruisers, patrols and even seirras, but i dont see how in hilux


NICK

it makes no more sense in a patrol transfer than in a hilux - they drive straight through like a hilux in high range.

if anyone is claiming any ratio change in high range in a straight through high range transfer case, it's a case of "marketing", that is, a "lie"

The 68% Marks gears for my cruiser are overdrive in High range by 1.08 - I think

I would have preferred a reduction like the sierras for the bigger tyres

marks have an underdrive and overdrive high range set for cruisers - what possessed you to go the overdrive?? that would suck on the road with bigger tyres.

Yeah I understand what your saying but it feals like there is a reduction in high range and in reverse like before i got them fitted I could hardly take off in high range with 35" tyres and now I can take off in high range with 36" tyres

dumbdunce wrote:marks have an underdrive and overdrive high range set for cruisers - what possessed you to go the overdrive?? that would suck on the road with bigger tyres.

Because they are the lower, low range gearset (68%)

To tell the truth, with the 4 speed it is not too bad on the road. Runs about 2400 rpm @ 100kph.

The 4.1s and the V8 push the 38s along quite nicely. In fact it launches quite hard for a big rig

Shorty40 wrote:

dumbdunce wrote:marks have an underdrive and overdrive high range set for cruisers - what possessed you to go the overdrive?? that would suck on the road with bigger tyres.

Because they are the lower, low range gearset (68%)

To tell the truth, with the 4 speed it is not too bad on the road. Runs about 2400 rpm @ 100kph.

The 4.1s and the V8 push the 38s along quite nicely. In fact it launches quite hard for a big rig

if you have the lower low range gearset then you have 8% UNDERdrive in high range; launch and be happy.

the overdrive high range gears have the higher low range.

dumbdunce wrote:

NICK wrote:

yeah it makes sense and is easy to understand in the cruisers, patrols and even seirras, but i dont see how in hilux


NICK

it makes no more sense in a patrol transfer than in a hilux - they drive straight through like a hilux in high range.

if anyone is claiming any ratio change in high range in a straight through high range transfer case, it's a case of "marketing", that is, a "lie"

yeah i thought about it and your right, maybe on the dirty old g60 and mq that are remote it is possible.

NICK

Adrian another guy that i wheel with sometimes just finished installing dual cases to his four runner names Dannial runs a v6 very tall on 35s might becomming on the weekend

ausyota how much was supply and fit? and how much reduction do you get in first... does it give the ratios as if 3rd low range became 5th low range.

thanks mat

Details on marks gears can be found here - http://www.marks4wd.com/Hilux-extra-low-tc-gears.htm
Paul.

If anyone wants duals look in the for sale section.