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HZJ75 standard or 2 inch ride height

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:09 pm
by micka1
Hey guys purchased a HZJ75 a few months back and its still on standard split rims and tyres .
The front and rear springs have sagged substantially and i'm now looking to replace them and am unsure whether to go raised or standard spprings ,but as i will still need to fit it in a garage i would like to know what a standard or 2 inch raised height of the vehicle may be before i purchase springs .

any help would be greatly appreciated .

micka1

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:34 pm
by Wambat
my 75 is on standard springs or so i belive, and is 2050 mm to the roll bar, however, the roll bar could be higher or lower than others.

thats sitting on 33s too.

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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:10 am
by micka1
maybe a better measurement would be between the bumpstop to diff clearances front and rear .
Then i can see the difference between the figures .

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:47 pm
by Wambat
yeah i havent measured that yet though lol. i have meassured to the bar so that i know where i can and cant go, like parking garages.

i will get out and measure it for ya tomorrow if i remember

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:49 pm
by Wambat
front bumpstop to housing was 80 mm, rear was 130mm

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:55 am
by micka1
thanks wambat , i just measured up my mates 73 and his was about 90 mm on the front .

which mine has sagged a lot as my ute was 40 mm for the same measurement :roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:24 pm
by Wambat
no worries mate, glad to try and help, mine might be sagging too compared to your mates, or my front end could be heavier, (i run the 2h) and then their is the possibility that mine is lifted, which i doubt, (well hope it isnt)

so what are you going to do now?? buy standard or lifted springs??

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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:39 am
by micka1
my mates springs look like standard height but haven't sagged much , also he has the petrol motor , steel bar no dual batteries etc .

i'm going with 2 inch raised springs and will see how it goes , the front of my ute sits down quite a bit so i think this will be fine for what i need of the ute .

i'll post up the height after i get them in .

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:14 pm
by Wambat
that would be good mate, i am thinking to go the custom length new mains, with 2 inch lift, and then play witht he rest of the pack to get it flexing how i want,


also at the moment i have no bar on the front and i also dont have dual batterys, so i am guessing mine is sagged stock suspension,

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:06 am
by maddog_75
hey micka1,

once you get the 2 inch springs chucked in could you please measure up the distance between the bump stop and the diff housing for me?

i got a hzj75 and recently put some 2 inch springs in since the fronts had sagged badly and it seemed to make the car sit level.

its running standard length greasable shackles, and its now got around 80-90mm between my bump stop/diff housing (and its got a steel bar).

i thought i'd get a bit higher from 2 inch springs, but my shackles are nearly sitting vertical.

cheers,
george

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:22 am
by Wambat
as far as i am aware you want your shackels at closer to 45 degreas, so its possible that the springs arent long enough, cause longer shackles wont fix that,

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:01 pm
by maddog_75
the suspension mob told me that the shackles should not be vertical, but be close to it as having dead vertical shackles will mean the ride will be rougher.

when i did the swap i put both spring packs next to each other and they were the same length/height, but when i actually put the new one in it definitely did raise it.

i'll eventually put some extended shackles in to give it another inch of front lift and it should help the flex a tad more.

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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:40 pm
by micka1
ok i got my front 2 inch ome springs in , they are rated at plus 110kgs as i have a winch , dual batteries , steel bar etc .

the shackle angle is just past 45 degrees and the bumpstop to diff height in front is about 105 mm .. up from the 35 i had when i started :lol:

waiting for my rear 2 inch to suit for the rear, shoudl get them some time this week ..

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:29 pm
by maddog_75
how did the springs compare side by side when you took them out?

longer, higher, thicker?

105mm is pretty good!

i'm going to put my dedicated offroad wheels on in a few days and flex the front end to see if i can get the bump stops to hit the diff. if i cant i'll chuck some bump stop extensions in to help with the flex.

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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:42 am
by micka1
the springs side by side , new ones were a little more arched and have 3 extra leaves ( 9 instead of the 6 ) of the standard ones .

vehicles drives much better and front suspension works now , instead of driving half on the bumpstops on any bump .

yeah i'm happy with the height , obviously it will drop a little when they settle in but as i said this is only my tow car and easy tourer .. wasn't really after flex out of it .

will let you know what happens when i get the rears

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:03 pm
by maddog_75
cheers mate,

i'm really interested in the rears as i currently have 400kg constant mine pack rears and FK ME DEAD, feels like i got bashed in the back after offroading, lol

they dont flex, i never have 400kg in the back anymore, they just do nothing but cause pain.

i want rears with 2 inch lift, but some that will flex and be alright flexing/driving with a steel tray and say only 50kg on the back.