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BEADLOCKING RIMS

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BEADLOCKING RIMS

Post by CRUSHU »

my 15 x 14 steel rims have arrived, and i want to beadlock them. i rand eastern wheel works, (a really helpful guy). he quoted me to weld on the rings, but not to supply. he refered me to pgs in mornington for the rings. is there anyone else that supplies the rings? or imports them? i remember big balls offroad had some (i think), does he still sell them? thanks in advance.
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i think SnakeRacing do too.....
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Post by LEXX »

You can also try Action 4wd down here in Warragul m8, Neil was making some rings last time I was there, he is certainly worth a call.
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Post by GUEEY »

Total 4x4 in epping supply them , weld ring ,outer flange and bolts.
Then get someone to weld em on for you
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Re: BEADLOCKING RIMS

Post by TuffRR »

CRUSHU wrote:my 15 x 14 steel rims have arrived


15 x 14 rims - WTF???? What size tyre you going to be running on those???????
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Re: BEADLOCKING RIMS

Post by CRUSHU »

TuffRR wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:my 15 x 14 steel rims have arrived


15 x 14 rims - WTF???? What size tyre you going to be running on those???????


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Post by MYTTUF »

PGS have done mine and they be all ok.

And I'm sure they have rings available.

G & J Gears are having a sale and have complete beadlocked rims for sale for $80 atm. They are ok if you get plates machined that go b/w outer & inner rims. (cost about $50 a few years back) See Just 4x4 mag.
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Post by Guy »

MYTTUF wrote:PGS have done mine and they be all ok.

And I'm sure they have rings available.

G & J Gears are having a sale and have complete beadlocked rims for sale for $80 atm. They are ok if you get plates machined that go b/w outer & inner rims. (cost about $50 a few years back) See Just 4x4 mag.


Fark .. thats cheap .. I will be calling them ASAP .. They are in Vic aren't they ..
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Post by 4sum4 »

Don`t get the rings welded on, just get internal beadlocks
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Post by CRUSHU »

i'll have to get 2 and put them side by side!!
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Post by grimbo »

4sum4 wrote:Don`t get the rings welded on, just get internal beadlocks


don't think they make them for 14" wide rims
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Post by MYTTUF »

Read Just 4x4 for more info about the G & J beadlocks but we had them on a GQ SWB and, along with heaps of others, busted bolts. They are easily fixed with spacer plates and are a steel at the price if its correct. Prob is that the outer ring isz too flimsy and flexes too much.
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Post by MYTTUF »

Whoops, Yes they are in Vic, Mornington to be correct. 0359761585 is the number I think. And NO, I'm no salesman. I'm just passing on info to my fellow web wheelers.
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Post by CRUSHU »

g & j dont have them in a 15 x 14 or bigger, or in 8 stud :cry:
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Post by Guy »

MYTTUF wrote:Read Just 4x4 for more info about the G & J beadlocks but we had them on a GQ SWB and, along with heaps of others, busted bolts. They are easily fixed with spacer plates and are a steel at the price if its correct. Prob is that the outer ring isz too flimsy and flexes too much.


Perhaps an upgrade to some decent grade 8 hardware is in order ..
Ham many bolts per wheel ??
Reckon I might have to call em in the morning ..

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It's already been asked BUT what size tyres are gunna don these 14inch wide rims :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Post by MYTTUF »

There is less than (cant remember) the ones I have atm (PGS ones) and thats prolly the prob along with flimbsy outer ring, but as I've already said it can be fixed with plates.
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Post by roly »

CRUSHU wrote:i'll have to get 2 and put them side by side!!


they will make custom ones for around $210 i think
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Post by RUFF »

CRUSHU wrote:g & j dont have them in a 15 x 14 or bigger, or in 8 stud :cry:


Thought you said you allready have the rims?
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Post by RUFF »

4sum4 wrote:Don`t get the rings welded on, just get internal beadlocks


If you are planning on doing lots of Rock work i wouldn't recomend them. There is nothing to protect the Rim and its easy to get rocks and mud in between the rim and bead.
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Post by N*A*M »

eww said the same to me about the rings
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Post by A1 »

A couple of sites for those that want to see the actual plates gettin welded on .......................................


http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavist ... dlocks.htm


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other link didnt work try goin to pirate n searchin for the longfield DIY beadlock kit in 4x4 discussion
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Post by RUFF »

If you buy a kit make sure the outer ring is not too thin. I know the ones that Big Balls used to sell are very thin and bend real easy.
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Post by CRUSHU »

MYTTUF wrote:It's already been asked BUT what size tyres are gunna don these 14inch wide rims :?: :?: :?: :?:


44 X 21 all terrains.

already have the rims, but if a set already done come up cheap, i can use these for street duty. i have 39 x 15 mickeys for street duty
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Post by bru21 »

c.o.r.e in brisbane (0402 842989) does great work. a mate of mine got a set a while back. don't leak, tuff as - new design, self aligning bead. he's got 5 of my 15x10's at the moment, costs $250 - $300 + with paint etc per rim. fully stress releived etc. a lot dearer than the weld your self ones, but big tyres have more surface area hence more pressure on the bead - wouldn't trust crap!. also wouldn't write off good 15x14's with crappy rings!

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Post by Area54 »

M & M Custom engineering have a weld in kit, they do have the beefier rings, as RUFF said, you don't want to use a thin inner or outer ring.
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Post by MissDrew »

SInce you have 15 x 14 rims you are going to be running big tyres. I wouldn`t be going with el cheapo beadlocks. Look into them lots before you get any and make shore the ones you get have the lip for the inner and outer rings to line up as the way I see it this carrys the wieght and it isn`t ALL on the bolts. Also the more bolts in them the better and the outer ring should be curved where it sits over the bead, not just flat like alot of the cheaper ones.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

I have run PGS sourced rings with Eastern 6mm flanges for over 4 years. They are reliable (now :?) but took lots of rework. I have recently fitted plates and reversed the bolts. These have made an enormous difference... bolt tension and the amount of flexing of the rings as the bolts are tnesions is much less.

I reckon that 44's woudl make mincemeat of them though - I would go with something way stronger - CORE maybe??

PS the pic is of my current set up. I am doing the same thing with my Zook project. The "uncoventional" reversed bolts (nuts on the outside hummer styley) are to make tensioning them easier, and add traction. :D
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Post by CRUSHU »

this car wont be doing any hard core wheelin. the most challenging terrain will be magna's and camira's :twisted:
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Post by MYTTUF »

Why beadlocks then :?: :?:
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