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Post by Butt Craic »

I've currently got a reasonably modded GU coil cab that I've had for 3 years now (spring / body lift, lockers, gearing, 37's on-road, 39's-42's offroad, barwork etc). I've been toying with the idea of selling the ute and building a TJ Wrangler.

I decided to roll the lease on the GU for another year but had a bit of an incident earlier in the week . . . I work in the ski fields and on my day off, I blew out my knee big time. Short story is that the doc and physio laughed when they saw my rig - something about grade 3 tears of most of the ligaments in my left knee and 9" of lift that they reckon don't mix. Then, as soon as I'm rehabbed enough to go under the knife, driving a manual will be out for another 5-6 weeks.

So he's what I'm thinking. I buy an auto TJ and wear the double lease payments til my knee is better. Sell the GU then (minus the diffs with the lockers, trussing and gears) with some standard GU diffs under it.

Then the fun with the TJ starts . . . Atlas II transfer case goes in to let me run the shortened GU diffs (R&P on different side than on the TJ). Keeping the GU stud patterns allows me to keep all of the tyre/wheel combos that I have.

I'm still not sure about what colour and am really nervous about starting another project given that I've already got a really capable truck.

What would you guys do? Make the jump or keep bumming rides til the knee gets better and I can drive the GU again?
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Post by landy_man »

if it were me i would just keep the GU and bum rides from people...
Sounds like you have spent a lot of $$$ and time on the rig...

OR you could pull the modded stuff out the GU... replace with stock...
then when you are all better, bolt in the mods again... and sell the standard diffs

Far cheaper, no second lease and you till get to keep your GU
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Post by Daisy »

I take it convertin to an auto's not an option.

Be fun doin up another fourby.

You seem to have your mind set on doin up a wrangler hey?
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Post by landy_man »

ooops... missed the part of not being able to change gears... :oops: :oops:

why not just buy a cheap auto 4by with cash and sell when done
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Post by J Top »

Spend a grand on a small auto saloon to get you arround till you are able to drive it again.
Don't rush into any big cost options till you have had time to contemplate the big picture.
The mods you are suggesting will devalue the TJ to the average buyer.
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Post by Butt Craic »

GQ wrote:You seem to have your mind set on doin up a wrangler hey?


Don't know that the mind is necessarily set . . . probably more just looking for another project because I enjoy the building as much as the driving. I've always wanted a Wrangler - still got the original FJ40 soft top that was my first car and kind of like the thought of building a comfortable truck that has a lot of those characteristics.

I'm a bit nervous about going back to a stock truck - the $$$ don't worry me that much (I earn decent money and am stupid enough to empty most of the $$ I earn on my hobby).

A lot of the $$ spent on the GU are in the diffs and wheel / beadlock combo, hence the initial suggestion that I take them with me.
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Post by Butt Craic »

I would love to put a 4 speed auto in the GU (preferrably a TH700) . . . anyone know of someone who makes a kit to slide one in????

Being able to do that would probably sway the decision well and truly to keep the GU and drop it on it's guts till I can climb in and out of the 'monster' again
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Post by markil »

i reckon if the money isn't such a concern, go and get yourself and wrangler and have fun!
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Post by spazbot »

i say keep the gu and just get a small awd suby for the snow for the season
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Post by Mad Cruiser »

Marks Adapters

Should be able to make you one
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Post by Slunnie »

Keep the GU and bum rides or buy a short term no loss buzz box
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Post by andy & di »

Bloody hell what medication has the doc got you on? They must be strong enough to kill a horse if they're makin you think of selling the GU to buy a wankler " Its a junk thing you wouldn't understand"
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Post by mudtoy »

What is wrong with putting a little cash back into the good ol' faithful cruiser. With a good spoa they cruise like on coils...60/80 series diffs coils or extended leaves, extended wheel base, chopped guards...should still run most of your wheels and tyres.
Drop in an injected gen III with turbo and carry a small stool to help with entry/exit or build a retractable step.
Comfy, grunt, capable and not overly expensive!
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Post by Matt N »

Can you run a driver's-side drop front diff?
Wouldn't it be easier to just graft a Jeep body to a shorty Nissan chassis?

Anyway I reckon keep the ute. Bum lifts, or get a stand-in "normal" car until the knee heals.Then if you want to keep spending ALL of your money and then some, buy a second hand wrangler (only to apease your Jeep desire) rip it apart and build a unregistered comp rig out of it (Kincade style). Use the ute to tow it around to properties or comps.
If you want to spend a bit less money. Turn your 40 into a serious comp rig. And still use the ute as a tow rig.

That way you can do crazy wheelin and not wreck your good truck. Keep the truck for "mild" wheeling/camping/ touring.
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Post by Daisy »

To get in the car 'easier' why not temporarily adapt a defender rear sprung step as well? - prolly Grimace.. but helps with gettin in and out while you're in recovery.

Marks adaptors should have the kit to suit perhaps for the auto :?:
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Post by Butt Craic »

For the record I actually have 2 40 series sitting at mum's place back in Melbourne. My original rig has gone all the way from mild (31s and pretty stock through to 38's, SPOA, 307 Chev on gas, extended wheelbase . . . basically a comp rig) back to more of a hot rodder running over 35's with a nice paint job.

The second is now being turned into a beast during my hols when I head back to Melb and work with my brother on a 40 series with a coil conversion all round - wheelbase stretched to around 100", rear guards now non-existent, full roll cage etc.

Sounds like the jury is in . . . I'll be on the phone today to start talking somone into making me up an adapter for the TD42 to TH700 or (cough . . . splutter . . . weep a tear or 2) consider buying the first "sensible" car in my life to get me through the next couple of months.
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Post by sw1 »

andy & di wrote:Bloody hell what medication has the doc got you on? They must be strong enough to kill a horse if they're makin you think of selling the GU to buy a wankler " Its a junk thing you wouldn't understand"


took the words right out of my mouth

thats like selling a wrx for a 'fully sick' excel

keep the patrol and just buy a cheap auto run around
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Post by RaginRover »

want a comfy auto to get around in ... range rover

RANGE ROVER 1987
Auto, power steering, air conditioning, low kms, rego 12/2004, $2950, APR-84J CHESTER HILL 02-9727 3231

RANGE ROVER 1987
Auto, power steering, air conditioning, low kms, rego 12/2004, $2950, APR-84J CHESTER HILL 02-9727 3231

Range Rover 1988 all power options, good condition in and out, 150000kms, 09/2004 rego, $6500 negotiable, BBJ-029 BANKSTOWN 0405-35 8258


Pick up a cheap auto and drive it while the knee gets better and they keep or sell it, you will probably pick up $1000 less for it in 6months if you wanted to offload it quickly .. much cheaper than leasing another.

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Post by mr Z »

yeah keep the gu
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Post by -Scott- »

I'm with GQ - if climbing in and out is the only problem then invest in a temporary side step.
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Post by antt »

just pull the suspension lift out and get a set of 31's to run around on......oh, and drop the auto in ;) :D
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Post by Doggy »

The gammy knees arent cool at all, been there done that and said no to the knee reconstructions (yes both knees are rooted) so i feel your pain.
When i stuffed my left knee i managed for a while driving my manual with just my right foot but came to the conclusion that it was highly dodgeworthy plus its probably not workable in a stonker patrol. I reckon go by a cheapy auto for a while or scum lifts off people. Also remember that the cold really really stuffs with your knees sometimes
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Post by bru21 »

what would you want a jeep for christs sake.

you are reliving your past with not one but 2 - 40's one for the street, one for the racing. then you have the option of driving perhaps the most capable 4x4 on the market. an auto will make it better. put ya orig springs, front panhard, and a set of splitties - happy days. why waste perfectly good nissan money on a jeep. weak as, under designed too long shafted, shite house push rod motor, try hard wanker mobile, that need fixing every trip - my mates have them gone through like 4 uni's in months, then the auto died, then everything. they are for the troy dans of this world, the type whom like to buy show pony american suspension with massive 33" at's on beadlook wheels. why put nissan diffs under a jeep. nissans have nissan diffs already!!!! as well as every other correctly sized component!!! nissans, 40's etc are for those whom like to modify to improve ability not reliability.

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Post by scorched »

Have u got any fotos of your gu?
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Post by RoldIT »

Butt Craic wrote:I'll be on the phone today to start talking somone into making me up an adapter for the TD42 to TH700


Why not get a Patrol Auto box and get it rebuilt with all the trick gear that's being discussed in the Patrol section at the moment? Modified throttle bodies, torque converters, lock-up switch, etc

Sounds like a shit load easy conversion than a GM box.

As for the lift, shouldn't be too hard/spensive to get a nice little hydro/pnumatic retractble step for you to get into the cab.

Food for thought ...
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Post by Daisy »

RoldIT wrote:
Butt Craic wrote:I'll be on the phone today to start talking somone into making me up an adapter for the TD42 to TH700


Why not get a Patrol Auto box and get it rebuilt with all the trick gear that's being discussed in the Patrol section at the moment? Modified throttle bodies, torque converters, lock-up switch, etc

Sounds like a shit load easy conversion than a GM box.

As for the lift, shouldn't be too hard/spensive to get a nice little hydro/pnumatic retractble step for you to get into the cab.

Food for thought ...


Yer good idea.. why not one of those torque converter electronic switch lockups - make your car more capable offroad

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Post by Butt Craic »

Thought about the Patrol auto but have access to a TH700 basically free so that's why I was leaning that way. Would be considering the other mods that have been discussed anyway - if your gunna fork out the pennies, thenn you might as well do it right the first time.

Ended up on the phone to knee surgeons all day so didn't get to call Marks until after 4pm so I guess the inquiries will have to wait until Monday to push it all forwards.

I managed to get a set of 35's to fit with the stock suspension so perhaps I can work on getting the lowrider look over the 37's now.
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Post by Butt Craic »

terrytuffnut wrote:Have u got any fotos of your gu?


Stay tuned. Might actually get my arse into gear now I've got much more time to sit around doing nothing and put together some photos and a bit of a blurb for the members section.
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Post by A1 »

Problem solved i shall gladly swap my shorty Diesel Mav which only resides 7" above stock with the kewl 29" roadys for your GU Tray no cash adjustment on your behalf shall be needed......... :armsup: :D





Lets me know wen i can come down and pick up my new wheels ;)





But all honestly dont you have 2 sets of sized lifts for this truck .....just put your smaller lift in and be done with it for a few months



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Post by Butt Craic »

A1MAV wrote:Problem solved i shall gladly swap my shorty Diesel Mav which only resides 7" above stock with the kewl 29" roadys


Lets me know wen i can come down and pick up my new wheels ;)


Dan


That's about what's I'd swap ya for . . . the wheels only!

I have 4" lift springs as well as the 7"s and worst case, I can probably chase some favours to get a standard set of springs from someone and ride over the 35's for a while.
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