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MK - Need your advise on the best lift to fit 33's
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:59 pm
by kamote09
Hello All,
I've been reading the posts and this is a great site indeed. Verify informative and I've learned a lot.
I do have question to the guru's here.
I'm from the PH and own a LWB SD33TD MK series 5 speed box stock. I've beeen doing some light trailing and i've always encountered centering my patrol. I was hoping that you guys could help me out to increase my clearance. I have a mechanic down here who's been planning to do an SOA on my patrol however from what i've read fitting 33's is no problem at all with a basic 2" body and 2" suspension lift.
Questions:
- What do you use for a 2" body lift? is it true that you can actually use roller blade wheels for this?
- How do I gain a 2 inch suspension lift? Do I have to change my stock springs with aftermarket springs? or is there a way that I can use my old springs?
- What brand of leaf springs do you suggest?
- When do you regear? what tire size requires regearing?
- What would be easier to do, spoa or 2" body 2" suspension without affecting drivability (on road performance for long driving)
Currently my front shackles are extended by 4 inches and thats it, that's the reason why my patrol looks high up front compared to the back.
I have no plans of going hard core off-roading but merely a capable trail vehicle. My rig is mostly onroad than offroad, well, a weekend trail vehicle that is.
Thanks,
Kamote
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:01 pm
by berazafi
i only have a two inch body lift on mine and the tyres only scrub when i am revsing with my wheels at full lock and the back is heaps higher than the front (gradient of road), you can get a body lift kit from chezzy in melbourne (all bolts and spacers) for around 100 i sure shipping wont be much
Thanks for searching first
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:15 pm
by Screwy
U dont need any lift to fit 33's and if u have shackle lift u r fine, this pic is of my new patrol, its stock as a rock and on 31's.
33's only increase the the gap in that guard 1 inch. As u can see they will easily fit.
Body lifts can be done with a polypropylene substance like wat is used in boat rollers, or u can use steel blocks or allow blocks. Makes little difference. Body lifts are easy.
Spring lift is just more leaves or curveir springs.
If u got ur standard springs reset u may gain up to an inch of added lift.
screwy
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:17 pm
by Screwy
THE PIC WAS STORED!!!!
wats goin on....
screwy
either way they fit easy!
HERE IT IS, FINALLY!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:02 pm
by kamote09
Hello,
Thank you so much for the feedback. I'm planning of getting 33's really soon and hopefully I'd be able to fit them with just minor modifications.
Screwy, saw your mods...one nasty rig you got there! really great man.
Kamote
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:45 pm
by Screwy
Thanks MAN!!
cheers

Re: MK - Need your advise on the best lift to fit 33's
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:57 am
by V8Patrol
kamote09 wrote:Questions:
- What do you use for a 2" body lift? is it true that you can actually use roller blade wheels for this?
Rolerblade wheels

... send a pm to high n mighty or email him on ....
high_n_mighty2703@hotmail.com kamote09 wrote:- How do I gain a 2 inch suspension lift? Do I have to change my stock springs with aftermarket springs? or is there a way that I can use my old springs?
New leaf pak time !!!
kamote09 wrote:- What brand of leaf springs do you suggest?
Depends on what type of ride/flex/towing/etc etc you require.
kamote09 wrote:- When do you regear? what tire size requires regearing?
38.5" is a tad tall for the stock gearing but certainaly not "undrivable, the main conversion you should consider is diff centre change if fitting tyres that size. I run 35"s and have no dramas gearing wise at all.
kamote09 wrote:- What would be easier to do, spoa or 2" body 2" suspension without affecting drivability (on road performance for long driving)
2" body and 2" suspension will do nicely ...... A SOA conversion isnt for onroad performance at all !!!
kamote09 wrote:Currently my front shackles are extended by 4 inches and thats it, that's the reason why my patrol looks high up front compared to the back
sounds like the front springpak is stuffed ...... any pics availiable ???
kamote09 wrote:I have no plans of going hard core off-roading but merely a capable trail vehicle. My rig is mostly onroad than offroad, well, a weekend trail vehicle that is.
Then a 2" body and 2" suspension lift is all you need and ofcourse a decent set of tyres to compliment it
Kingy
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:48 am
by kamote09
oh noh...i tried to reply but i guess i got bumped...
Re: MK - Need your advise on the best lift to fit 33's
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:52 am
by kamote09
V8Patrol wrote:kamote09 wrote:Questions:
- What do you use for a 2" body lift? is it true that you can actually use roller blade wheels for this?
Rolerblade wheels

... send a pm to high n mighty or email him on ....
high_n_mighty2703@hotmail.com thanks...i've seen some here in PH do it on their LC's
kamote09 wrote:- How do I gain a 2 inch suspension lift? Do I have to change my stock springs with aftermarket springs? or is there a way that I can use my old springs?
New leaf pak time !!!
oh no...i gotta start saving...
kamote09 wrote:- What brand of leaf springs do you suggest?
Depends on what type of ride/flex/towing/etc etc you require.
hoping for a soft ride but with a 2" or 3" lift from the springs alone
kamote09 wrote:- When do you regear? what tire size requires regearing?
38.5" is a tad tall for the stock gearing but certainaly not "undrivable, the main conversion you should consider is diff centre change if fitting tyres that size. I run 35"s and have no dramas gearing wise at all.
no plans of slapping 38's probably i'd max on 33's
kamote09 wrote:- What would be easier to do, spoa or 2" body 2" suspension without affecting drivability (on road performance for long driving)
2" body and 2" suspension will do nicely ...... A SOA conversion isnt for onroad performance at all !!!
ok...SOA out of the question then...i use it on road mor that off road...long driving, family haulling etc...
kamote09 wrote:Currently my front shackles are extended by 4 inches and thats it, that's the reason why my patrol looks high up front compared to the back
sounds like the front springpak is stuffed ...... any pics availiable ???
I'll try to post a photo
kamote09 wrote:I have no plans of going hard core off-roading but merely a capable trail vehicle. My rig is mostly onroad than offroad, well, a weekend trail vehicle that is.
Then a 2" body and 2" suspension lift is all you need and ofcourse a decent set of tyres to compliment it
Kingy
Thanks Kingy, your feedback is really appreciated...will keep you guys posted... I think i'll go for the shackle lifts for no especially on the rear and body lift to follow...
thanks again...
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:36 am
by kamote09
I had two blow outs last weekend on separate instances thus I was forced to buy a set of 32's on my rig ASAP...o well there goes my plan of slapping 33 MT's....anyways...
can anyone please post a photo of their front and rear extended shackles? or can someone direct me to a link please? I was planning to make my own but would need a pattern to have it done...what is the max length of both shackles without compromising safety and drivability...
TIA
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:32 am
by kamote09
Hello All,
Sorry...I know you guys are way too techy to even look into this

..but i really need your help...
anyways..i just had my shackles extended today 2x as long as the original for both front and back...
my front had some limiting factors...1) shocks -no question here...just purchase 2" longer shocks...
2) stabilizer link? I'm not sure if thats the one...it restricts the down travel of my front axle...its either I lower my stabilizer link mount or fabricate a longer stabilizer link...which among the two would least affect drivability?
I would really appreciate your feedback.
Thanks,
Kamote
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:10 pm
by Screwy
When u say driveability do u mean offroad or onroad?
Remove swaybar for offroad driveabiliy and vice a versa...
Lengthening shackles is illegal in NSW. If is about the only lift mod that will not get engineered.
As long as u change your castor angles to suit, you can lift at you own plessure, ussually not much more than about 3 to 4 inches longer max..
screwy