36" ET's or 37" Creepy Crawlers?

[Leithfield]

Am keen to upgrade my current Lux rubber (35" ET's), and am undecided between the new 36" ET II or 37" Maxis Creepy Crawlers. Have been extremely impressed with the performance, strength, and wear of my current ET's ... so have a sentimental attachment to the larger rolling diameter sibling.

Given that 80% of my wheeling is on local wet riverbeds, mud tarns, and beaches, what would you recommend? Again, am looking for all of the attributes I have enjoyed in my current ET's.

[crankycruiser]

this is a bit off subject.. but how many k's did u get outta ur simexs??
P.S i've got the new et II's and they r wicked. havent heard much about the creepy crawlers as yet but i had a set of the Maxxis mudzillas and they wore very fast...

[MYTTUF]

SIMEX

[Leithfield]

Hi Crankycruiser,
To be quite honest - not sure exactly how many k's (haven't maintained any record); but have enjoyed 2.5 years of hardcore wheeling and ET's are only 35% worn. And, that includes regular tarseal use.

[GUEEY]

BEWARE Fellow Offroader!

What the sellers of Maxxis Creepy Crawlers fail to tell you is that due to there side wall thickness and increadable strength they crown heaverly in the middle of the tyre when fitted to a 8 inch rim , i had a blu with them after doing one trip and said for a street leagle tyre they were the worst bias ply tyre i had owned, there reply was they should have been fitted on 10inch rims, but no one told me that before i laid down $1700 for 4 35x12.5/16 . "if only at the time i had the experience of others"

Cheers. Grant / Shafted

[GRIMACE]

BEWARE Fellow Offroader!

What the sellers of Maxxis Creepy Crawlers fail to tell you is that due to there side wall thickness and increadable strength they crown heaverly in the middle of the tyre when fitted to a 8 inch rim , i had a blu with them after doing one trip and said for a street leagle tyre they were the worst bias ply tyre i had owned, there reply was they should have been fitted on 10inch rims, but no one told me that before i laid down $1700 for 4 35x12.5/16 . "if only at the time i had the experience of others"

Cheers. Grant / Shafted

Brett can give us more info on this Rolly are you out there ? ? ?
Grant - you may have run them at to higher prssure, these tyres are very soft and not reccomended for everyday road use, they heat up very quickly on the highway and if they already have to much pressure in them the extra heat make it even worse.
On a vehicle around 2T in weight I would not run these tyres above 30PSI
On a vehicle below the 2T i beleive 25PSI is the advised norm
Offroad feel free to let them down to 10PSI cause they are awsome
In saying that I really think the maxxis tyres should not be on any daily driven rig, they should be use as a second set of play tyres

My opinion in this thread is the Simex will be better for the conditions and the usage for your requirements. Go the Simex again you wernt dissapointed b4 so you should be dissapointed with them second time round

[GUEEY]

BEWARE Fellow Offroader!

What the sellers of Maxxis Creepy Crawlers fail to tell you is that due to there side wall thickness and increadable strength they crown heaverly in the middle of the tyre when fitted to a 8 inch rim , i had a blu with them after doing one trip and said for a street leagle tyre they were the worst bias ply tyre i had owned, there reply was they should have been fitted on 10inch rims, but no one told me that before i laid down $1700 for 4 35x12.5/16 . "if only at the time i had the experience of others"

Cheers. Grant / Shafted

Brett can give us more info on this Rolly are you out there ? ? ?
Grant - you may have run them at to higher prssure, these tyres are very soft and not reccomended for everyday road use, they heat up very quickly on the highway and if they already have to much pressure in them the extra heat make it even worse.
On a vehicle around 2T in weight I would not run these tyres above 30PSI
On a vehicle below the 2T i beleive 25PSI is the advised norm
Offroad feel free to let them down to 10PSI cause they are awsome
In saying that I really think the maxxis tyres should not be on any daily driven rig, they should be use as a second set of play tyres

My opinion in this thread is the Simex will be better for the conditions and the usage for your requirements. Go the Simex again you wernt dissapointed b4 so you should be dissapointed with them second time round

When i bought these tyres i was made aware of the required pressure for my GU ( 25-30 psi) it made no differance Unbearable vibration at 95 ks.
and yes they are my second set but they still need to behave on the blacktop to get to my offroad desternation.
After coming back from my first trip on them i took them to a tyre balancer caperble of big wheels.Two tyres 425-500 grams out and one tyre had a 10cm hop in it.when i told the supplier about the problem his reply was "What do you expect from a rag tyre"and i told him "I had owned over the last 12 years TSL Swampers JT1s , JT2s and they were the worst Bias ply tyre i had driven on and the fact they have a DOT & E4 rating you expect them to be O.K to travel down the blacktop.

So that is my Maxxis experiance,and the fact i cant sell them as new for $1200 on new rims tells me everybody else nows they are SHIT TYRES.

[GRIMACE]

Grant - You seem pretty dissappointed If i had the cash I would purchase the tyres from you soley as a play set but i dont
Its is wierd you havin bad vibratin and not balancing well - my mates are great on the road and they handled fine doin 120 on the highway home from ormeau, only odd spot is at low speed with soft braking the lugs can be felt but then again we are comparing your Crawlers to my mates Mudzillas......... Maybe there is a difference and hopefully Rolly can butt in and let us know abit more about this crownin effect

[Pesky Pete]

Well I gotta say that I am wrapped in My Creepys. Only had one decent drive on them, but I was impressed. I am running 37's on a 10 inch rim, and NEVER will use them on road.

Before I bought my creepies I went to the Maxxis website and researched what rim size I needed for the tyre. In my case, it suggested a 12 inch rim, but I made the decission to go to a 10 inch rim anyway. The maxxis site also lists the 35 inch tyre and states it should be used on a 10 inch rim.

I run my tyres at 10 psi and find them great on rock, dirt and generally loose and soft trails. Never driven them in mud as I prefer rock. next time I am going to try to run them at 5 psi and see how they go.

It is a shame that GUEEY has had a bad experience with a tyre dealer, but in reality I think it is a little unfair for someone to bag a product so badly when the problem was so obviously not related to the product.


Anyway I am wrapped in my tyres and will strongly recommend them to others. Just my 20c

[GUEEY]

Well I gotta say that I am wrapped in My Creepys. Only had one decent drive on them, but I was impressed. I am running 37's on a 10 inch rim, and NEVER will use them on road.

Before I bought my creepies I went to the Maxxis website and researched what rim size I needed for the tyre. In my case, it suggested a 12 inch rim, but I made the decission to go to a 10 inch rim anyway. The maxxis site also lists the 35 inch tyre and states it should be used on a 10 inch rim.

I run my tyres at 10 psi and find them great on rock, dirt and generally loose and soft trails. Never driven them in mud as I prefer rock. next time I am going to try to run them at 5 psi and see how they go.

It is a shame that GUEEY has had a bad experience with a tyre dealer, but in reality I think it is a little unfair for someone to bag a product so badly when the problem was so obviously not related to the product.


Anyway I am wrapped in my tyres and will strongly recommend them to others. Just my 20c

I am glad to here that there are guys out there that have them and are happy with their Creepys,maybe a got a couple of bad tyres that the dealer was not prepaired to back them enough to sought them out for me.
What dissapointed me was the money i paid for them i could have bought any other brand in that size that had years of reputation , but i went out on a limb and chose a tyre that i thought would suit my needs( Hardcore and drive good to my desternation) .But in my case they didnot.
What Cuts me is they are incredable Offroad , but they shake the car that bad that my Southern Cross Rack bag on my roof rack had holes chewed through the canvas.

[ORSM45]

35 ET2s are around 380 a tyre.

37 creepys are around 600.

you do the math.

[Rolly]

we have sold heaps of creepys and mudzillas and had no complaints.
any bias ply tyre is hard to balance no matter what brand .
on mine the fronts only took 10 grams each but the rears took 150 each on 16/8 alloys . ive found alot of steel wheels to make a big difference in balance problems as they have heavy spots in the rims and some of the tyres also have heavy spots so if you turn the tyre on the rim they normally come up ok .
the crowning of the tyre is a result of maxxis making them very strong but very flexable in the tread area which must work because the results i and others are getting with them is very encouraging .
there is no perfect tyre if there was every one would have them .
just buy what you think would suit the terrain you play in .
always run two sets dont use your bias ply on the road your just throwing your money down the drain .
as a all round tyre i find them to be very good in most conditions and the results the guys are getting with them is very impressive . we sell them for $415.00 ea and simex for $385.00 .
i hope this is of some help .

cheers brett

[GUEEY]

we have sold heaps of creepys and mudzillas and had no complaints.
any bias ply tyre is hard to balance no matter what brand .
on mine the fronts only took 10 grams each but the rears took 150 each on 16/8 alloys . ive found alot of steel wheels to make a big difference in balance problems as they have heavy spots in the rims and some of the tyres also have heavy spots so if you turn the tyre on the rim they normally come up ok .
the crowning of the tyre is a result of maxxis making them very strong but very flexable in the tread area which must work because the results i and others are getting with them is very encouraging .
there is no perfect tyre if there was every one would have them .
just buy what you think would suit the terrain you play in .
always run two sets dont use your bias ply on the road your just throwing your money down the drain .
as a all round tyre i find them to be very good in most conditions and the results the guys are getting with them is very impressive . we sell them for $415.00 ea and simex for $385.00 .
i hope this is of some help .

cheers brett

Brett . From your reply it it looks like i must of been the only on to have had a problem, from your experience would you think that 450 -500 grams out and the 10mm hop in one tyre to be considered faulty tyres? I have owned many different rag tyres in the past and have not had any of them ride as bad as my Creepys, and do you think it would be improved by a 10inch rim.And even though they are a second set you still have to run down the blacktop at hwy speed, and that is were my problem is.

Thanks for your input .Grant

[Pesky Pete]

35 ET2s are around 380 a tyre.

37 creepys are around 600.

you do the math.

Having driven both, I do like the creepy more but thats just my 20c worth. I find the ET a bit iffy on rock etc when wet, but the Creepy just bites in and away it goes. On slippery sideslopes the creepies really stand out. They feel very secure and stick like the peverbial sh*t to a blanket

The sidewalls are VERY stiff, but the soft tread surface moulds very nicely.

[Rolly]

gueey it does sound as though you have had a rough time and could of got a couple of bad tyres and if it was at our shop i would have sent them back to the supplier and put on another set for you .
all tyres have a warranty and you can get problems with any brand even bfg have recalled a heap of tyres at the moment because they cannot be balanced .

cheers brett

[crankycruiser]

Hi Crankycruiser,
To be quite honest - not sure exactly how many k's (haven't maintained any record); but have enjoyed 2.5 years of hardcore wheeling and ET's are only 35% worn. And, that includes regular tarseal use.

thanks leithfield... hopefully i get as good a run as u did out of yours...