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Defender panhard rod ?
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:34 pm
by 110 TUFF
Hi guys, just a question. it might sound stupid, on the front end of a defender will one wheel have more travle then the other ie, passengers more then drivers? is this to do with the panhard rod on the front being kept standard with my 3 inch lift? should my panhard rod be longer? if so anyone make a new stronger one to suit?
Drew.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:09 pm
by modman
whiteline in sydney make an adjustable panhard for defenders.
it comes with urethane bushings, best to piss these off straight away and put original back in.(rubber)
looks very snazzy in a passivated finish but may rub/knock on thr front diff. guard.
david
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:17 pm
by 110 TUFF
thanks david, whats the advantage of using a longer pamhard rod? will this help my truck flex better? will it fix the uneven droop situation i have on the front now?
Drew
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:33 pm
by modman
the advantage of a longer or adjustable panhard rod is that when you lift the front end of a pootrol, land(fill)cruiser or mighty rover the axle becomes off centre, as in not aligning with the rear axle.
think of the panhard rod as it drops, it moves in an ark(off centre)
now if you spring lift your truck probably more than 3" then the front wont line up with the rear, as in the front axle will have moved to one side.
you wont be able to 4 wheel align the vehicle.
some people don't mind this problen.
i found my defender would twist/wander on its axis when i was riding on the top of corrugations, severe braking would produce the same result, so would slippery mud(acceleration and braking)
the car was efectively crabbing.
i got a mate to align the front and he did a 4 wheel alignment just to check, he told me about the difference.
mine was only lifted 2", but it has made a difference.
i had allready replaced most of the bushes, chassis and suspension as a matter of maintenance.
hope this makes sense, rick130 or bill(daddylonglegs) will probably post tonight, they are well experianced with suspension cycling.
david
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:26 pm
by suzidisco
does any one have a Phone number for whiteline in sydney
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:32 am
by asafk
what about 'bump steer' effect when changing the panhard length, while keeping the steering drag link the same?
asaf.
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:37 pm
by bazzle
does any one have a Phone number for whiteline in sydney
http://www.whiteline.com.au/alignment.htm
"Google" is YOUR friend
Bazzle
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:05 am
by modman
the length difference would only be in the realm of 10-20mm.
don't think this would effect bumpsteer yet, or should i say has'nt effected it yet.
david
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:14 am
by daddylonglegs
LandRover Panhard rods/drag links in standard trim are more horizontal than Nissan/Toys etc, so a mild lift doesn't affect them that much.
Bill.
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:53 am
by 110 TUFF
thanks everyone
Drew.
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:07 pm
by wilsby
You adjust the drag link out when you install a longer/adjustable panhard to get the steering back on center, so shouldn't affect bump steer.