LC 4x4 Air Operated Diff Locks

[rock hopper]

[edit= RUFF] This was split from another topic as it had nothing to do with the original question.[/edit]




put a L.C. 4X4 air opperated locker in it .....
much better than the other lockers .....

[RUFF]

put a L.C. 4X4 air opperated locker in it .....
much better than the other lockers .....

You keep saying this but have given no proof as to why?


What makes this Air Operated locker better than any other locker on the market?

Nothing you have said about it has made me beleive its better than anything on the market.

So show me why its better. I had never even heard of it before you started posting on here. How many competition proven Vehicles are running these? I know hundreds of Comp vehicles across the world running ARBs. So why arent they running yours?

[rock hopper]

put a L.C. 4X4 air opperated locker in it .....
much better than the other lockers .....

You keep saying this but have given no proof as to why?


What makes this Air Operated locker better than any other locker on the market?

Nothing you have said about it has made me beleive its better than anything on the market.

So show me why its better. I had never even heard of it before you started posting on here. How many competition proven Vehicles are running these? I know hundreds of Comp vehicles across the world running ARBs. So why arent they running yours?

3 years of test and 90 day to the public .
we use them in all our comp work ..
we improved on the arb locker . by about 3 times stronger and 100% improved in the design .....
as you all ready know that arb lockers . leak air - oil ect .
we don't have that problem .
PROBLEMS WITH OTHER BRANDS.
1. LEAKING "O" RINGS.
2.THIS CAUSES THE DIFFERENTIAL AIRLINE TOO ACT AS A BREATHER,RESULTING IN LOSS OF OIL.RESULT.DIFFERENTIAL FAILURE.
3.AS OTHER BRANDS DO NOT UNLOCK IMMEDIATELY UNTIL ALL PRESSURE HAS BEEN RELEASED, IT WILL STAY LOCKED,SOMETIMES FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD.
4.L.C.4X4 ARE AT THE LEADING EDGE OF TECNOLOGICAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND AS SUCH HAVE MANY MORE PRODUCTS COMING TO YOU SOON.
 

[RUFF]

3 years of test and 90 day to the public .
we use them in all our comp work ..
we improved on the arb locker . by about 3 times stronger and 100% improved in the design .....
as you all ready know that arb lockers . leak air - oil ect .
we don't have that problem .
PROBLEMS WITH OTHER BRANDS.
1. LEAKING "O" RINGS.
2.THIS CAUSES THE DIFFERENTIAL AIRLINE TOO ACT AS A BREATHER,RESULTING IN LOSS OF OIL.RESULT.DIFFERENTIAL FAILURE.
3.AS OTHER BRANDS DO NOT UNLOCK IMMEDIATELY UNTIL ALL PRESSURE HAS BEEN RELEASED, IT WILL STAY LOCKED,SOMETIMES FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD.
4.L.C.4X4 ARE AT THE LEADING EDGE OF TECNOLOGICAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND AS SUCH HAVE MANY MORE PRODUCTS COMING TO YOU SOON.
 

What comp work? Im involved in most 4x4 competitions in SE QLD and dont know of any vehicle running this diff. You would think someone at one of the comps im involved in would have mentioned this if they were running it.

I have never had a problem in more than 4 years of running ARB airlockers and these have been in and out of countless diff centres and now fitted in a Rock Crawling Tube Buggy. Not had a single seal failure. The only problem with the seals comes from improper instalation or contamination of Oils.

I have never had a single instance in 4 years of competition use that the ARB lockers have not unlocked when i wanted them to.

As for the Air line acting as a breather to allow loss of oil it would take handreds of uses of the Airlocker to loose enough oil to create a problem.

How did you come to the equation that its 3 times stronger? Got some test figures for this? And again how is it 100% better in design?

You also mention that "OTHER" 4wd outlets are selling this under a different name? This sounds realy odd to me.


Dont get me wrong im very interested in this if it is Better and Stronger than an ARB but your not doing much to convince anyone. And i dont think after such a small amount of testing you have any rights to say its better than any other locker on the market. Or to be here bagging ARB lockers with every chance you get.

[ToNkA]

put a L.C. 4X4 air opperated locker in it .....
much better than the other lockers .....

You keep saying this but have given no proof as to why?


What makes this Air Operated locker better than any other locker on the market?

Nothing you have said about it has made me beleive its better than anything on the market.

So show me why its better. I had never even heard of it before you started posting on here. How many competition proven Vehicles are running these? I know hundreds of Comp vehicles across the world running ARBs. So why arent they running yours?

3 years of test and 90 day to the public .
we use them in all our comp work ..
we improved on the arb locker . by about 3 times stronger and 100% improved in the design .....
as you all ready know that arb lockers . leak air - oil ect .
we don't have that problem .
PROBLEMS WITH OTHER BRANDS.
1. LEAKING "O" RINGS.
2.THIS CAUSES THE DIFFERENTIAL AIRLINE TOO ACT AS A BREATHER,RESULTING IN LOSS OF OIL.RESULT.DIFFERENTIAL FAILURE.
3.AS OTHER BRANDS DO NOT UNLOCK IMMEDIATELY UNTIL ALL PRESSURE HAS BEEN RELEASED, IT WILL STAY LOCKED,SOMETIMES FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD.
4.L.C.4X4 ARE AT THE LEADING EDGE OF TECNOLOGICAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND AS SUCH HAVE MANY MORE PRODUCTS COMING TO YOU SOON.
 

I have no problems with either of my two air lockers. If your product is the same price or cheaper than an airlocker it would seem a good alternative, otherwise its a waste of money.

So how is it 100% improved in design? You have changed the whole deisgn then?

As for you not having the leaking air/oil problem. You can not claim that. ARB when they built their lockers didnt sell them leaking air or oil. What is to say yours will not leak air or oil? If you are that certain yours will not leak air or oil are you offering a non conditional money back guarantee on your locker not to leak air or oil?

[rock hopper]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

[RUFF]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

So you can come here and say its 3 times stronger and 100% better but then want me to Email you so you can tell me about your other products.I dont think so!

If you can say in a public forum that its better and stronger then i dont see why you cant post some pictures of this "BETTER" diff lock on a public forum or even on your own web site or at least answer some realistic questions.

And at over $400 more than an ARB and i imagine a lot less product support i dont see you selling many.

Im not disputing that its an improvement its just i have seen no proof of this at all. And the fact you dont want to answer questions is doing you no more favours.

If you have the balls to come here and say its better then you better have the balls to back it up!

[RV80]

[quote=RUFF]

What comp work? Im involved in most 4x4 competitions in SE QLD and dont know of any vehicle running this diff. You would think someone at one of the comps im involved in would have mentioned this if they were running it.

You also mention that "OTHER" 4wd outlets are selling this under a different name? This sounds realy odd to me.[/quote]

so who is running your lockers in comps
who else is selling them

[rock hopper]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

So you can come here and say its 3 times stronger and 100% better but then want me to Email you so you can tell me about your other products.I dont think so!

If you can say in a public forum that its better and stronger then i dont see why you cant post some pictures of this "BETTER" diff lock on a public forum or even on your own web site or at least answer some realistic questions.

And at over $400 more than an ARB and i imagine a lot less product support i dont see you selling many.

Im not disputing that its an improvement its just i have seen no proof of this at all. And the fact you dont want to answer questions is doing you no more favours.

If you have the balls to come here and say its better then you better have the balls to back it up!

i am buy a dig cam soon and i will send out some pics .
how many product do u make ?
u can buy a new cheap 4x4 for around $17,000 or a bigger better 4x4 for $70,000 .

[RUFF]

how many product do u make ?
u can buy a new cheap 4x4 for around $17,000 or a bigger better 4x4 for $70,000 .

What the hell does this have to do with anything thats been mentioned here. I dont make 4WD products. And if i did i wouldnt be on the biggest 4wd forum in Australia trying to convince people that the unknown product i just released is 100% better and 3 times stronger than any other product on the market.



I still want to know where you get these figures???

Again what are the Comps that this locker has been used in?

[MY45]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

So you can come here and say its 3 times stronger and 100% better but then want me to Email you so you can tell me about your other products.I dont think so!

If you can say in a public forum that its better and stronger then i dont see why you cant post some pictures of this "BETTER" diff lock on a public forum or even on your own web site or at least answer some realistic questions.

And at over $400 more than an ARB and i imagine a lot less product support i dont see you selling many.

Im not disputing that its an improvement its just i have seen no proof of this at all. And the fact you dont want to answer questions is doing you no more favours.

If you have the balls to come here and say its better then you better have the balls to back it up!

Farken oath get us some info. I think im speaking for most, and im sick of these posts just advertising products with unreal claims....3 times stronger....100% better design...show us some proof of these claims

[glen1n]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

So you can come here and say its 3 times stronger and 100% better but then want me to Email you so you can tell me about your other products.I dont think so!

If you can say in a public forum that its better and stronger then i dont see why you cant post some pictures of this "BETTER" diff lock on a public forum or even on your own web site or at least answer some realistic questions.

And at over $400 more than an ARB and i imagine a lot less product support i dont see you selling many.

Im not disputing that its an improvement its just i have seen no proof of this at all. And the fact you dont want to answer questions is doing you no more favours.

If you have the balls to come here and say its better then you better have the balls to back it up!

i am buy a dig cam soon and i will send out some pics .

Dont send out the photos to people, as RUFF said we dont want to hear about your other products, just post then in a public forum.

[rock hopper]

[quote=RUFF]What comp work? Im involved in most 4x4 competitions in SE QLD and dont know of any vehicle running this diff. You would think someone at one of the comps im involved in would have mentioned this if they were running it.

You also mention that "OTHER" 4wd outlets are selling this under a different name? This sounds realy odd to me.[/quote]

my lockers are sold under other brand names .
as i am a wholesaler .
i am working on a product that will help prevent engine mount from braking .....
(how many products that arb - sell are made by arb- ???)

[rock hopper]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

So you can come here and say its 3 times stronger and 100% better but then want me to Email you so you can tell me about your other products.I dont think so!

If you can say in a public forum that its better and stronger then i dont see why you cant post some pictures of this "BETTER" diff lock on a public forum or even on your own web site or at least answer some realistic questions.

And at over $400 more than an ARB and i imagine a lot less product support i dont see you selling many.

Im not disputing that its an improvement its just i have seen no proof of this at all. And the fact you dont want to answer questions is doing you no more favours.

If you have the balls to come here and say its better then you better have the balls to back it up!

i am buy a dig cam soon and i will send out some pics .

Dont send out the photos to people, as RUFF said we dont want to hear about your other products, just post then in a public forum.

how do u post pics

[RUFF]

my lockers are sold under other brand names .
as i am a wholesaler .
i am working on a product that will help prevent engine mount from braking .....
(how many products that arb - sell are made by arb- ???)

No body here gives a rats arse about your engine mounts. Answer the questions or go try and sell your products on another forum im sick of this crap!

[MY45]

[quote=RUFF]

What comp work? Im involved in most 4x4 competitions in SE QLD and dont know of any vehicle running this diff. You would think someone at one of the comps im involved in would have mentioned this if they were running it.

You also mention that "OTHER" 4wd outlets are selling this under a different name? This sounds realy odd to me.

so who is running your lockers in comps
who else is selling them

my lockers are sold under other brand names .
as i am a wholesaler .
i am working on a product that will help prevent engine mount from braking .....
(how many products that arb - sell are made by arb- ???)[/quote]

So what are these brand names ???

[glen1n]

e-mail me and i will send some pics of my lockers .
plus give u more info on my products .........
if know one improved on products . we would still be driving model t fords.

So you can come here and say its 3 times stronger and 100% better but then want me to Email you so you can tell me about your other products.I dont think so!

If you can say in a public forum that its better and stronger then i dont see why you cant post some pictures of this "BETTER" diff lock on a public forum or even on your own web site or at least answer some realistic questions.

And at over $400 more than an ARB and i imagine a lot less product support i dont see you selling many.

Im not disputing that its an improvement its just i have seen no proof of this at all. And the fact you dont want to answer questions is doing you no more favours.

If you have the balls to come here and say its better then you better have the balls to back it up!

i am buy a dig cam soon and i will send out some pics .

Dont send out the photos to people, as RUFF said we dont want to hear about your other products, just post then in a public forum.

how do u post pics

http://photobucket.com/ then link them

[rock hopper]

i may not be able to read and write . but when it comes to building stuff
i out rank the rest .....
i will have to get some one to type up info on my products . so u all can be happy . i am teaching my self to read and write . and using this forum has helped improve my skills (reading and writing) i left school in year 9 .
did my first spring over mod to a G60 patrol . at 14 years old .....
many year latter here i am .....

[glen1n]

i may not be able to read and write . but when it comes to building stuff
i out rank the rest .....
i will have to get some one to type up info on my products . so u all can be happy . i am teaching my self to read and write . and using this forum has helped improve my skills (reading and writing) i left school in year 9 .
did my first spring over mod to a G60 patrol . at 14 years old .....
many year latter here i am .....

All we want is pictures and proof.

[RUFF]

i may not be able to read and write . but when it comes to building stuff
i out rank the rest .....
i will have to get some one to type up info on my products . so u all can be happy . i am teaching my self to read and write . and using this forum has helped improve my skills (reading and writing) i left school in year 9 .
did my first spring over mod to a G60 patrol . at 14 years old .....
many year latter here i am .....

This is all good and im not knocking you for trying.

But people have questions and if you cant answer them then dont come here telling people you have a better product but not be able to answer them as to why its better.

So it has a neumatic Air Ram. What stops this from developing seal problems? I have seen Air rams fail 100's of times in much better environments than under a 4wd covered in dirt, mud and oil.

Where is the Air ram mounted? How is it protected from damage?

[rock hopper]

i may not be able to read and write . but when it comes to building stuff
i out rank the rest .....
i will have to get some one to type up info on my products . so u all can be happy . i am teaching my self to read and write . and using this forum has helped improve my skills (reading and writing) i left school in year 9 .
did my first spring over mod to a G60 patrol . at 14 years old .....
many year latter here i am .....

All we want is pictures and proof.

i will be glade to show you all .
cruiser park (mud bulls + music) i will have 4 demo 4bys there .

[MY45]

[quote=RUFF]

What comp work? Im involved in most 4x4 competitions in SE QLD and dont know of any vehicle running this diff. You would think someone at one of the comps im involved in would have mentioned this if they were running it.

You also mention that "OTHER" 4wd outlets are selling this under a different name? This sounds realy odd to me.

so who is running your lockers in comps
who else is selling them

my lockers are sold under other brand names .
as i am a wholesaler .
i am working on a product that will help prevent engine mount from braking .....
(how many products that arb - sell are made by arb- ???)

So what are these brand names ???

[rock hopper]

L.C. 4X4 PRODUCTS .
i can not list the other brand names . due to a signed doc saying that i can not tell the public ..etc. sorry .

[MY45]

Ok then what stores sell your locker?

[RUFF]

cruiser park (mud bulls + music) i will have 4 demo 4bys there .

What are they and what events are they competing in?

[eliteforce32]

u do know ROCK HOPPER that when u say u will be at mud bulls and music and showing ur products...u better have all infomation and note just talking about it will u be competing in comp. for this weekend??? if so what events so people can see it in action??

[glen1n]

Figured out how to post those pics yet rock hopper?

[low40]

holly bat shit man why woul dhe say they are sold under a diffrent name ,but when asked for the name ,come up whith some crap about some signed doc ,being not able to tell the public , im not jumping on the band wagon but what a toss

[RV80]

holly bat shit man why woul dhe say they are sold under a diffrent name ,but when asked for the name ,come up whith some crap about some signed doc ,being not able to tell the public , im not jumping on the band wagon but what a toss

correct. none of the major 4wd retailers sell airlockers
other than arb. as far as i know.

[eliteforce32]

the funny thing is that if ROCK HOPPER just linked some picks...with aid of a "mate" most of us would atleast acknowledge that their is such a thing and we may want to buy them..the other thing is just me or is this fellow been trying to get to peoples emails for product spamming??