Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I am keen to fit P/S to my 81 Hilux. Just woundering what is the best way to go about it ?
Should I just buy a setup of another one with P/S or are there other alternatives ?

Cheers,

how serious are you into 4wding?

if you just want factory style power steering you will need

power steering box
power steering pump
resivour
plumbing

if it is a diesel you will need to have the radiator modified if you want to mount the pump using factory braketry

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or you could go to cross over style steering like that offered by snakeracing or chaos (soon i think)

i dont know a great deal on cross over as i still run factory style p/s so i will let others give you the low down on that

why does it matter how serious into 4wd ing matter

taziiy wrote:why does it matter how serious into 4wd ing matter

Because if he plans on getting real serious and chassing some big flex in the front then the stock steering wont handle it and he would be better off going cross over at the same time which requires a different style box.

no probs just wondering how serious is serious before u go cross over

Basicaly once you go more then 3" of lift or have more than 8" of shock travel in the front you will need to go Crossover. there are other ways of doing it but if you need to buy the Power steer conversion you may as well buy the box only once.
Also the IFS boxes are a lot cheaper and easier to come by.
On average you will pay between $1000 and $1400 for a solid axle power steer conversion compared to around $650 to $850 for an IFS conversion.But then there are also other cost involved in the IFS conversion such as high steer arms and drag link.

that 3'' lift is that suspension or both body and suspension

For $1000 - $1400 I will be making something of a junk yard wreck fit ..... The hilux is my work ute and if I am going out to play I take my Buggy anyway as it gets more place that a soft old Toyota ( he he ) . So wheel travel will not be a real problem on it. I am just trying to make it a little more user friendly for my wife to drive.

Has anyone tried getting foreign parts in there ?

taziiy wrote:that 3'' lift is that suspension or both body and suspension

What the hell would a body lift have to do with the steering?

dont know thats why im asking

Hey Brad maybe you should come out one day with the OUTERLIMITS Crew and show us how much further your buggy can go than a couple of our Toyotas

If you place an Add in the wanted section i know there are a few guys on here looking at going crossover soon so you may be able to buy a cheap solid axle power steering box and then you just have to buy a pump and lines.

For an '81 model you will also need the mount off the chassie to fit the power steer.

I gave my old power steer box away when i went crossover.

taziiy wrote:dont know thats why im asking

Ok then no a body lift wont make a difference.It will with a 3" suspension lift. I know a lot of guys run this with stock steering but i guarentee that the steering is not working right like this.

RUFF wrote:

taziiy wrote:why does it matter how serious into 4wd ing matter

Because if he plans on getting real serious and chassing some big flex in the front then the stock steering wont handle it and he would be better off going cross over at the same time which requires a different style box.

this shits me big time - the parabolics are starting to work and i max my shock 9in travel approx and i have no control when twisting it up

RUFF wrote:Hey Brad maybe you should come out one day with the OUTERLIMITS Crew and show us how much further your buggy can go than a couple of our Toyotas

No probs, once my new engine hits the magic 1500km mark I am keen to come out and have some fun. I am guessing it will have to be on rocks though as I would get sick of waiting for you guys if we play in the sand. BJ on roids has my contact details ( and most of my old cruiser junk he he ) .

I will post in the wanted section, thanks for the tip.

Cheers,

Yes you would be waiting a long time in the sand as my rig has never even seen that stuff before nor will it ever

I forgot to mention that i dont beleive you could use foreign parts as tjhe lux steering is fairly unique.

RUFF wrote:Yes you would be waiting a long time in the sand as my rig has never even seen that stuff before nor will it ever

I forgot to mention that i dont beleive you could use foreign parts as tjhe lux steering is fairly unique.

you could use rocky parts

RUFF wrote:

taziiy wrote:dont know thats why im asking

Ok then no a body lift wont make a difference.It will with a 3" suspension lift. I know a lot of guys run this with stock steering but i guarentee that the steering is not working right like this.

i dont mean to sound dumb but im on my own other than ready this site i really dont get any other info i only have a 2" susp lift and i havent done anything to serious no to go out with really just my brother and a few dirt tracks

bubs wrote:
you could use rocky parts

HOW they are set up like an IFS box.

taziiy wrote:i dont mean to sound dumb but im on my own other than ready this site i really dont get any other info i only have a 2" susp lift and i havent done anything to serious no to go out with really just my brother and a few dirt tracks

Thats cool dude we all start somewhere.

RUFF wrote:

bubs wrote:
you could use rocky parts

HOW they are set up like an IFS box.

you could use the power steer box - mounted inside the frame - forward throw as well


also remember this?

or this

Now you are just confusing the guy.
It wont bolt on and work with out a lot of $$$$$ and that setup in the pic is not stock either.

RUFF wrote:Now you are just confusing the guy.
It wont bolt on and work with out a lot of $$$$$ and that setup in the pic is not stock either.

sorry - brad - i would just get the steering of a p/s hilux

is you're lux petrol or diesel - i was going to do p/s on my old LN46

you need
the bracket for the frame mount
box
pump
change bottom radiator hose outlet
fluid resivor and hoses

i think that is it

No Probs, I will start looking. If not I will get busy an make something fit. I may still have a setup of a BJ42 kicking around at a mates place if I get stuck.

the internals of the BJ42 box are slightly larger but can be swapped into the hilux casing? apparently.... as the yanks do this, but grab the minitruck gear and use it in the FJ40 boxes..... maybe this is an option!!

GUYS basically brad WANTS and NEEDS a solid axle power steer box, the rest is cake, he is an awesome fabricator, so things like radiators and stuff i can guarantee you are NOTHING to him.

Find him a Solid axle power steer box cheap!! CMAWWWN

Now now lets not blow too much hot air up my butt but you are right all I really need is the box. I can get any pump to fit.
950km let to run till I can come out and play with your Toyotas .....

I am so confident that we race first on our terrain, then a week later we do your beach thing

how is dan? i have not seen him for 200 years!

dude im not blowing hot air up your butt, but i think a simple power steering conversion is well within the reach of you!

You mean building a pipe frame road registered car from scratch is harder than a P/S conversion.... interesting :> I am actually looking at power assisted R&P steering for the rock bug. The 16" rubber is getting a little big for the current setup.

Happy to play on all terrain, excluding deep water. The twin 44 IDF's don't like going under, neither does the engine, so nothing over 1m . Not that is matters casue I start to float at 700mm

ill make sure you stay out of water, in fact i dont like the stuff, as it makes mud, and when i see mud, i hammer down and go all brown YUKK

post up on here when you are keen for a run