Outer Limits 4x4 Board

So what differences is there between the two besides the different lower ratios?
Is the series 3 stronger than series 1 or vice versa?
Are they both a simple bolt in install?
Im thinking series 1 may be better for the wifes zook (which we havnt bought yet ) because we will be doing a fair bit of sand driving and dont want super low, just a bit lower then stock.
Paul.

ausyota wrote:So what differences is there between the two besides the different lower ratios?
Is the series 3 stronger than series 1 or vice versa?
Are they both a simple bolt in install?
Im thinking series 1 may be better for the wifes zook (which we havnt bought yet ) because we will be doing a fair bit of sand driving and dont want super low, just a bit lower then stock.
Paul.

series 1's are a common breakage, but if you want 4:1 there is calmini and trail tuff and various other versions available.... or use a s3 and select a higher gear for sand..more choices then...not many s3's have broken, as they are made better these days.....christover

If you jsust want "a bit lower than stock" why not swap diff gears???
4.6 5.12

Series 1 ratio will available again soon. (aprox feb) They will be a four gear set and all billet gears. Made to original factory tolerances. 4.11 to 1 ratio low range.

Series 3 are in stock. 6.129 to 1 ratio low range.

Liam wrote:Series 1 ratio will available again soon. (aprox feb) They will be a four gear set and all billet gears. Made to original factory tolerances. 4.11 to 1 ratio low range.

Series 3 are in stock. 6.129 to 1 ratio low range.

So Liam you are saying that the new series 1s will be as strong as the the 3s?
Paul.

yep.

Liam wrote:Series 1 ratio will available again soon. (aprox feb) They will be a four gear set and all billet gears. Made to original factory tolerances. 4.11 to 1 ratio low range.

Series 3 are in stock. 6.129 to 1 ratio low range.

Just in time for "Adventure Tour 05"
Will they still fit into a 1.olitre case?
Price approximately yet?
Christover

tripod has series 3 behind his 1.3 running 32 mongrels and he has no ratio dramas in the sand, he just uses high range.
I have s1 behind my 1.6 with 4.11 diffs and i do the same

low gears are for the rocks

Hey Paul, you could always buy my S3 for $4500, and get the rest of the car with it. It works great in the sand coz the tires have so much displacement.

DeWsE wrote:Hey Paul, you could always buy my S3 for $4500, and get the rest of the car with it.

That is an option
What are the specs on your zook?
How many Ks?
Lockers?
Probably after something a bit more standard and neater (ie not rolled ). But we may consider it.
Paul.

ausyota wrote:

DeWsE wrote:Hey Paul, you could always buy my S3 for $4500, and get the rest of the car with it.

Probably after something a bit more standard and neater (ie not rolled ). But we may consider it.
Paul.

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ausyota wrote:

DeWsE wrote:Hey Paul, you could always buy my S3 for $4500, and get the rest of the car with it.

That is an option
What are the specs on your zook?
How many Ks?
Lockers?
Probably after something a bit more standard and neater (ie not rolled ). But we may consider it.
Paul.

Who cares about the spec's when it out wheel's the Hilux.....

Narr just jokes. I understand where your coming from with the neater bit.
RUF ome 35 lift
extended shackles
2" body lift
S3
Long range tank
175000 km with rebuilt head last year
new starter last year
custom 15x8 rims
33x12.5 mtr's
extended brake lines
92 model WT
open diffs
No carpet ATM, but have them in my shed
genie extractors
back seat, not in atm
over head console
CD...not that great though.

But yes it does have dent's and it does drive like a pig. I drove it to bunbury thursday night, and perth last night without any drama.

Is your mate still interested as well? I forgot to PM ya back sorry.

I'm in no rush to sell as I don't have any cash to buy another car....damn uni fee's

Buy my car and I'll buy DeWsE's! Rebuilt motor, new tyres, clutch, brakes etc...

What's the go with shorter diff ratios anyways? What are they likely to set you back, are they hard to find?

OldGold wrote:Buy my car and I'll buy DeWsE's! Rebuilt motor, new tyres, clutch, brakes etc...

What's the go with shorter diff ratios anyways? What are they likely to set you back, are they hard to find?

if you change your diff ratios your on road gearing will be crap unless you run bigger tyres to suit , unless you go from 3.9 to 4.11 (but why would you) but if you go to 5.12 r/p on 31's or smaller its a pain on the open road but good off road .

i paid $360 i think or 380 from overkill , if mainly offroad than they are worth evry cent imo

how crap is crap?

it's a fair drive to anywhere good over here so don't want to kill my highway speeds completely

what size tyresyou running ?

now? 28s so obviously looking to move up... but I don't want to on stock gearing, I'm forever getting stuck halfway up long hills as it is.

Weighing up my options atm given that I'm going to have to change my gearing if I move up much in tyre size.

go series 3

its nice verry

accept does a few thousang rpm at high way speed but not so bad

yeah, but it's not like an S3 is cheap now, is it?

DeWsE wrote:

ausyota wrote:

DeWsE wrote:Hey Paul, you could always buy my S3 for $4500, and get the rest of the car with it.

That is an option
What are the specs on your zook?
How many Ks?
Lockers?
Probably after something a bit more standard and neater (ie not rolled ). But we may consider it.
Paul.

Who cares about the spec's when it out wheel's the Hilux.....

Narr just jokes. I understand where your coming from with the neater bit.
RUF ome 35 lift
extended shackles
2" body lift
S3
Long range tank
175000 km with rebuilt head last year
new starter last year
custom 15x8 rims
33x12.5 mtr's
extended brake lines
92 model WT
open diffs
No carpet ATM, but have them in my shed
genie extractors
back seat, not in atm
over head console
CD...not that great though.

But yes it does have dent's and it does drive like a pig. I drove it to bunbury thursday night, and perth last night without any drama.

Is your mate still interested as well? I forgot to PM ya back sorry.

I'm in no rush to sell as I don't have any cash to buy another car....damn uni fee's

Hmm its definatly an option.
Dewse would you have any idea if your mods would be engineerable?
The cops down here in Manji take great pleasure in their hobby that is stickering cars .
Maybe when we are in Perth for the weekend in a couple of weeks we could take a look at it.
Paul.

Hey Dewse sell me your transfercase and ill swap mine into yours .Paul Dewses mates dad still has a early modle 1 liter unlicenced but good motor only wants $850 for it i got it running was good

Liam wrote:
Series 3 are in stock. 6.129 to 1 ratio low range.

how much???? its for a 1.3 tcase???

i think i payd 350 for my 1.3 case that included jack shaft and mouths and the rest of it

clitty I have a spare 1.3 case you can have if you like for cheap

oh and I'm posting those shackles tomorrow

hey mick, cool az on the shackles...........i dont need a tcase, i just want the rockhopper gears.......prob would like to buy them already done in one but either or...........

rbzook: was that 350 just for the gears and where from????

cheers lads clitty

clitmaster I think RB paid 350 for a standard t-case to put his rockhoppers in cause the coily case is Dudelux chain driven

I was just saying I had one cheap for such a purpose but now that I read your post I see you're asking about the rockhopper. Why RB said what he paid for a std case I don't know

You'll never get transfer gearing for 350

whoops i miss understood

i payd i think 1200 for my series 3

thats what i thought, u got me hopes up ya bastard....hehe. oh well thats cool, just keep sniffing round the bushes, sumthin will pop up im sure....

hey ryan... what rpm does ur rig do with 31s and s3 to sit on 110?

90 on my speedo is about 105 actual speed and i do 4000rpms

also have 3.9R&P's and coulys gear box has different ratios as well