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Which Diesel Dual cab is better?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:38 pm
by dieseldude
Can you all please justify why you have chosen that particular vehicle as being better?
From peoples experiences, which is the stronger unit? Which motor goes better (is the Navara motor the same as the patrols)? Driver comfort? Towing capacity? etc...
Please list your comments as well as voting
Re: Which Diesel Dual cab is better?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:05 pm
by bogged
Better for what?
Towing?
Offroading?
Mall Crusing?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:25 pm
by dieseldude
Better for towing, general 4 wheel driving, Weekend stints in the bush.
Highway travel.
I'm not interested in doing ridiculous amounts of mods and crap like that.
The less I have to change the better.
I ask this because I have driven 3.0TD patrols and want to know if it is the same motor as in the Navara's.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:30 pm
by bogged
dieseldude wrote:I ask this because I have driven 3.0TD patrols and want to know if it is the same motor as in the Navara's.
Sadly yes its the same motor.
But look at the lux, there are squillions of people out there with off the shelf accessories, and the same amount of spares and wrecked ones if need be.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:32 pm
by high n mighty
What he said
Basically a whole lot more spares around, either new or s/h
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:32 pm
by dieseldude
Bogged. Does the Navara TD motor go better than the hilux TD?
Hasn't nissan addressed the issues with blowing pistons and stuff like that?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:36 pm
by bogged
dieseldude wrote:Bogged. Does the Navara TD motor go better than the hilux TD?
Hasn't nissan addressed the issues with blowing pistons and stuff like that?
Go and drive both, what I like and what you like may be different things.
remember there is no intercooler on the Navara compared to the GU either
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:24 pm
by dieseldude
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:30 pm
by bogged
dieseldude wrote:By the way, I didn't ask what you liked.
Im not telling you what I like.
Im telling you what would be better, as someone else has said. The Lux. But if you dont want to listen to people, and you already have your mind made up on the STR, which by reading back thru this, you already have... then dont ask.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:34 pm
by damo lux
Hilux for spares, after market bits, re sale value.
We have 04 td double cab nissans at work, not much room in the back even for a little bloke. They also seem a bit fragile compared to a lux.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:35 pm
by dieseldude
I'll ask all I want! I'm sure there's people out there OTHER THAN YOU that will offer reasoning!
By the way, are you GQTRUCKSTER off snakeracing?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:38 pm
by dieseldude
I suppose spares are a big part of it. If they're readily available it helps.
When you're only going to own it for about 5 years from new, do you still think the spare parts debate comes into it?
Cheers
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:44 pm
by damo lux
Well if you are only going to own it for five years then resale value is proberly one of your main concerns, plus if you don't like the one you buy, then buy the other on in five years, Then you will know!
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:45 pm
by dieseldude
TRue, Good choice
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:58 pm
by grimbo
nice attitude you ask for opinions then slag someone off when he gives one. You never asked for experts only to reply.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:09 pm
by bogged
dieseldude wrote:When you're only going to own it for about 5 years
You never mentioned that at the start. and spares always come into it
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:54 pm
by MQ080
Navara is still running drums on the rear, I don't know about the lux however I think that's a bit poor on a 2004/5 built vehicle...
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:54 pm
by dieseldude
By the way, I'm talking about the very latest models of each.
From what I understand, the later model IFS hilux's aren't all that compatible with previous models aftermarket equipment?
Correct?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:55 pm
by dieseldude
Drums? You serious? That's not to be expected these days hey?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:40 pm
by damo lux
Theres still a shyte load of after market bits for the latest model lux
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:34 pm
by stuee
The next modle hilux will also feature drums (saw it in 4x4 Australia, so I'm hopping thats a good enough source). And I believe the current model hilux also uses them. It seems to be standard in this class of vehicle to have drums at the back.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:46 pm
by HIL01X
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:52 pm
by Bingham
due to minor hostility on this thread i will just say navara simply as its a nice looking truck and a few puts arse extras make the driver feel all sporty and stuff.......... like sporty spice of the duel cab world....
this ssems to be what allot chasing
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:54 pm
by Xcited
Depends on what your needs are. I went for the Navara because of the comfort and the bling bling of the interior compared to the bland and smaller interior of the Hilux. Also the biggest advantage is the power / torque of the ZD30 engine of Nissan. The Navara ZD30 runs a different turbo setup to the Patrol and has never had any issues.
Go and drive both vehicles as that is the best way to make your choice.
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:37 pm
by GRIMACE
grimbo wrote:nice attitude you ask for opinions then slag someone off when he gives one. You never asked for experts only to reply.
ditto
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:31 pm
by Tiny
Hilux, parts, proven, overall more robust, less plastic crap......by the way not biased see below
Tiny
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:27 pm
by MQ080
Xcited wrote:Depends on what your needs are. I went for the Navara because of the comfort and the bling bling of the interior compared to the bland and smaller interior of the Hilux. Also the biggest advantage is the power / torque of the ZD30 engine of Nissan. The Navara ZD30 runs a different turbo setup to the Patrol and has never had any issues.
Go and drive both vehicles as that is the best way to make your choice.
Brett,
Obviously your happy with your truck... your buying a GU
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:34 pm
by Maggot4x4
None of the above, Go drive a TD5 defender that has been chipped and intercooled by Davis Landy's.
178kw 500nm 2.5L 5 cyl.
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:44 pm
by damo lux
and how much is new a defender compared to new a navara or lux???????
plus if you are buyin a ute you proly want a decent amount of tray space, somthin u won't get on a defender crew cab!
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:46 pm
by Maggot4x4
damo lux wrote:and how much is new a defender compared to new a navara or lux???????
plus if you are buyin a ute you proly want a decent amount of tray space, somthin u won't get on a defender crew cab!
1) Not a lot more (When you factor in putting in a proper front diff into the other two)
2) D130 Crew I suggest would be bigger than either a lux or navara.
