Flip arm and high steer.. now in progress

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:16 pm

Does anyone know of an easy fix or coversion for the 80 series steering box..???

I am on my 5th one now.. I keep twisting the shafts in them..

It is really starting to piss me off

Post by **Shadow** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:46 pm

smaller tyres ?

dont think you will be able to strengthewn them

may need to consider some sort of hydro assist, or full hydro.

Post by **RV80** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:01 pm

Hydro would be cool.

Post by **80diesel4play** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:16 am

Avoid the ruts? Try being nice to it?

Overall the box's are reliable - maybe look into a GU box conversion?

I think if you have doen 5 though - I'd examine your driving style, and what exactly you hit each time that did the damage - then avoid doing that again - I think learning is cheaper than steering box's.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:38 pm

I have been VERY nice to these last few box's... I did learn from the first two..

The last time I twisted It was I was just playing around testing my articulation... didnt hit anything just tried to hold the wheel straight so that i didnt fall off the bank.. reversed off and it was twisted.....

Only twice I have hit something hard to twist it.. the rest of the times it was pathetic....

Post by **crankycruiser** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:38 pm

Shadow wrote:smaller tyres ?

dont think you will be able to strengthewn them

may need to consider some sort of hydro assist, or full hydro.

What???? sorry i'm going deaf.. I didnt hear what u said....................... :roll:

Post by **80diesel4play** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:06 am

crankycruiser wrote:I have been VERY nice to these last few box's... I did learn from the first two..

The last time I twisted It was I was just playing around testing my articulation... didnt hit anything just tried to hold the wheel straight so that i didnt fall off the bank.. reversed off and it was twisted.....

Only twice I have hit something hard to twist it.. the rest of the times it was pathetic....

That sux man - maybe have a chat and look into the GU option - O know they are NOT cheap but teh cost may mean reliability!

I only changed my first box over 5000 k ago - after 295K and running large tyres. whata PITA for you though - have the box's been new or reco'd?

Post by **crankycruiser** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:06 pm

The last one was a genuine brand new box..

Lasted the shortest amount of time out of all of them... (2 weeks)

Looks like the GU box might be the way to go... is the GQ box any weaker than the GU?

Post by **80diesel4play** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:31 pm

crankycruiser wrote:The last one was a genuine brand new box..

Lasted the shortest amount of time out of all of them... (2 weeks)

Looks like the GU box might be the way to go... is the GQ box any weaker than the GU?

Yes - smaller everything.

Post by **Shadow** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:49 pm

crankycruiser wrote:
Shadow wrote:smaller tyres ?

dont think you will be able to strengthewn them

may need to consider some sort of hydro assist, or full hydro.

What???? sorry i'm going deaf.. I didnt hear what u said.......................

o_O

Post by **Coighty** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:55 pm

I have done a radius arm flip, and put hi steer on my 80
and im running 36" swampers no problems, as the hi steer
keeps it running parrallel & not at stupid angle.

Post by **RV80** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:41 pm

Coighty wrote:I have done a radius arm flip, and put hi steer on my 80
and im running 36" swampers no problems, as the hi steer
keeps it running parrallel & not at stupid angle.

This is usless with out pics.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:43 pm

Coighty wrote:I have done a radius arm flip, and put hi steer on my 80
and im running 36" swampers no problems, as the hi steer
keeps it running parrallel & not at stupid angle.

I have 7" and 36's...... u reckon it will help me?

Post by **JemmyBubbles** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:44 am

I whacked in a very late model GQ box into my shorty GQ and the difference in size alone is astounding. They seem to be just as big and strong as the similar GU units so if you can find a wrecked 96 or so GQ don't be afraid to go this route...

I give it a hammering and it takes it....

Post by **Coighty** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:43 pm

Sorry guys can't post any pics not that good on a computer.
Even if you dont go for the arm flip, which you should to correct
the castor, Hi steer will definitly help. :lol:

Post by **Coighty** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:54 pm

Still try'n to work out how to attach photos.
Coupla hours still no go. Fark im good ? :roll:

Post by **Coighty** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:16 pm

RV wrote:
Coighty wrote:I have done a radius arm flip, and put hi steer on my 80
and im running 36" swampers no problems, as the hi steer
keeps it running parrallel & not at stupid angle.

This is usless with out pics.

RV cant get pics up maybe u can give me your e.mail address
and i can send sum pics to you & you could post em 4 me

Post by **RV80** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:08 pm

Coighty's arm flip and hi-steer set up. Got it sorted.

Post by **RV80** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:30 pm

Hi-Steer set up

Post by **slowhilux** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:13 pm

Goddamn it!! Every time i see pics of the 80 hi steer/ flipped arms i wanna do it to my truck!!! But the money and time is always against me!!

Damn you RV for posting those pics of Coighty's truck

Hehehe

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:36 pm

crankycruiser wrote:I have 7" and 36's...... u reckon it will help me?

This is the major reason you are twisting the Sector shaft.

Once you lift a 80series or anything with factory cross over steering the steering link goes from running across the car parralel to the axle to running down hill big time. So when you hit a Bump insted of the arm just rotating up and down it gets pushed up and down which puts a heap of stress on the steering box.

Goung with a High steer arm will help fix this problem. Look at most hilux,s with Cross over steering. The steering link is usually fairly parralel to the axle when looking from the front. Hilux boxes have the same diameter sector shaft as far as im aware and these rarely twist.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:17 pm

Thanks for all the replys fellas..

Hey Coighty, did u make the high steer arm thingy or did u buy it??

Post by **LilBlkDuck** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:12 am

I'm on Box#2, I'm in on this!
Who, what, where?

Post by **RUFF** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:51 pm

crankycruiser wrote:Thanks for all the replys fellas..

Hey Coighty, did u make the high steer arm thingy or did u buy it??

Looks like a JMAC arm. Contact John on 02 96715800. He should be able to help you out here.

Post by **Coighty** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:18 am

Cranky The work was done by John McDonald @ Jmac
Well spotted Ruff
Give him a call 9671 5800

Post by **crankycruiser** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:33 pm

Any idea on a price for that arm??

Post by **crankycruiser** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:34 pm

LilBlkDuck wrote:I'm on Box#2, I'm in on this!
Who, what, where?

Glad to see its not just me this happens too.....

I was starting to feel all alone :cry:

Post by **LilBlkDuck** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:12 am

Glad to see its not just me this happens too.....

Dude, Only once and it was while fighting the wheel whilst being dragged up a rut with a rolled front tyre

5 times is mad! Fix it! :armsup:

Spoke to John, sounds like this will go a long way to fixing your woes. Did mention you'll need to raise the Panhard Rods 3" or so and that the bar may occasionally hit the chassis on compression where both springs bottom at the same time, but no issues through the articulation.
At four inches the Angle my arm sits on will not be as bad as yours so I may be able to live with it for now, then again I may go another inch or two later.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:24 pm

Hhehe...

u have 4 inch's dont u Lilblkduck.... I busted the first 3 on 4"

The 4th was in the accident i had and the last one is just a freak of nature I thinks....

anyway I'm definatly goin to do this now..

I will ring j mac and get a price on the highsteer arm and go from there I guess :cool:

Post by **crankycruiser** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:28 pm

Coighty wrote:Cranky The work was done by John McDonald @ Jmac
Well spotted Ruff
Give him a call 9671 5800

Whats the area code for this number??

(??) 96715800

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