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Rear Disconnect & lt230

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:32 pm
by antt
Are there any other tcases around (not atlas) that can perform the rear disconnect like the lt230?

if not, what possible gearbox's can the lt230 be adapted to run behind? and how much drama would it be, as fabricating spares would become a pita

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:41 pm
by bubs
If you want, when I was looking for a t-case for my project the LT230 leads it self well to adaption, I was originaly going to use a T700r-4 auto to LT230 in my lux, but as I was running out of $'s I decided to use what I had.

When the adaptor is made proberly, with properly splined and heat treated output shafts / couplers you should never have a problem.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:03 pm
by slosh
Hey bubs I'd be keen for something like that... what about lt230 behind R series box or A3## auto?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:19 pm
by RUFF
bubs wrote:If you want, when I was looking for a t-case for my project the LT230 leads it self well to adaption, I was originaly going to use a T700r-4 auto to LT230 in my lux, but as I was running out of $'s I decided to use what I had.

When the adaptor is made proberly, with properly splined and heat treated output shafts / couplers you should never have a problem.


Therte is no commercialy available Adapter to go from the T700 to the LT230.

And you cant disconnect the rear drive from an LT230 they are constant 4wd.

However you can Front Dig ;)

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:44 pm
by bubs
RUFF wrote:
bubs wrote:If you want, when I was looking for a t-case for my project the LT230 leads it self well to adaption, I was originaly going to use a T700r-4 auto to LT230 in my lux, but as I was running out of $'s I decided to use what I had.

When the adaptor is made proberly, with properly splined and heat treated output shafts / couplers you should never have a problem.


Therte is no commercialy available Adapter to go from the T700 to the LT230.

And you cant disconnect the rear drive from an LT230 they are constant 4wd.

However you can Front Dig ;)


I know about the adaptor, It would have be easy to make that adaptor as my A340 to R1FA t-case adaptor I made

Is there a call for such an adaptor :?

Slosh, yes, very easy, get me an LT230 and I can make the adaptor I have enough A340E autos to work from :cool:

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:33 pm
by antt
hmmm, turbo700 to to lt230 sounds good. gives plenty of options

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:50 pm
by RUFF
antt wrote:hmmm, turbo700 to to lt230 sounds good. gives plenty of options


You will end up with an adapter that is over 5" long to achieve this and you will still have front drive shaft issues unless you run a Centre bearing on the front shaft. The pan on the T700 is realy wide and if you were to mount the LT230 directly behind it and make a straight line forward of the front output it will hit the pan by about 1/4 of the Tailshaft. This is the main reason a kit is not generaly Available. There are places that have made kits but i dont beleive the demand has been there in the past for more to be made. Having said this we are working on an adapter at the moment and as long as the first works out we will then look at making more. Depending on wether we make them In House or shop the work out will make the difference on if we will be able to supply them to the General Public. We are very busy without having to also make these to Order.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:08 am
by Dozoor
TH700 + LT230 = 10.16-1
TH400 + LT230 = 8.23-1
Aw430 + LT230 = 9.3-1
TH400 +$ Atlas 4-1 = 9.92-1
TH350 +$ Atlas 4-1 = 10.08-1

Larry

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:11 am
by slosh
bubs wrote:
I know about the adaptor, It would have be easy to make that adaptor as my A340 to R1FA t-case adaptor I made

Is there a call for such an adaptor :?

Slosh, yes, very easy, get me an LT230 and I can make the adaptor I have enough A340E autos to work from :cool:


Sounds good bubs, will look into it.

Finding an lt230 with the 1:1.2 high range is not so easy I hear.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:12 am
by bubs
RUFF wrote:
antt wrote:hmmm, turbo700 to to lt230 sounds good. gives plenty of options


You will end up with an adapter that is over 5" long to achieve this and you will still have front drive shaft issues unless you run a Centre bearing on the front shaft. The pan on the T700 is realy wide and if you were to mount the LT230 directly behind it and make a straight line forward of the front output it will hit the pan by about 1/4 of the Tailshaft. This is the main reason a kit is not generaly Available. There are places that have made kits but i dont beleive the demand has been there in the past for more to be made. Having said this we are working on an adapter at the moment and as long as the first works out we will then look at making more. Depending on wether we make them In House or shop the work out will make the difference on if we will be able to supply them to the General Public. We are very busy without having to also make these to Order.


A T700 to R1FA t-case adaptor is approx 6" long when i spoke to marks, is the front drop closer to the centre line of the vehicle than that of the Hilux R1FA

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:29 am
by Wendle
what is the lateral measurement from the input centreline to the front output centreline on the LT230?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:22 pm
by RUFF
Wendle wrote:what is the lateral measurement from the input centreline to the front output centreline on the LT230?


Wendle the only one i have here is in my rangie and im not laying under it tonight to measure :D

I will try and get a measurment off one at work tomorrow.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:23 pm
by RUFF
bubs wrote:
RUFF wrote:
antt wrote:hmmm, turbo700 to to lt230 sounds good. gives plenty of options


You will end up with an adapter that is over 5" long to achieve this and you will still have front drive shaft issues unless you run a Centre bearing on the front shaft. The pan on the T700 is realy wide and if you were to mount the LT230 directly behind it and make a straight line forward of the front output it will hit the pan by about 1/4 of the Tailshaft. This is the main reason a kit is not generaly Available. There are places that have made kits but i dont beleive the demand has been there in the past for more to be made. Having said this we are working on an adapter at the moment and as long as the first works out we will then look at making more. Depending on wether we make them In House or shop the work out will make the difference on if we will be able to supply them to the General Public. We are very busy without having to also make these to Order.


A T700 to R1FA t-case adaptor is approx 6" long when i spoke to marks, is the front drop closer to the centre line of the vehicle than that of the Hilux R1FA


Only Just but its still enough to Cause dramas. Even in a hilux the front shaft has pan clearence problems when running the Hilux Tcase.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:25 pm
by RUFF
slosh wrote:
bubs wrote:
I know about the adaptor, It would have be easy to make that adaptor as my A340 to R1FA t-case adaptor I made

Is there a call for such an adaptor :?

Slosh, yes, very easy, get me an LT230 and I can make the adaptor I have enough A340E autos to work from :cool:


Sounds good bubs, will look into it.

Finding an lt230 with the 1:1.2 high range is not so easy I hear.


Basicaly anything with a ZF Auto has a 1.22 transfer. Discos and Rangies. The 1.22 is the most common.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:32 pm
by Bush65
Wouldn't you be able to do front digs with other full time 4wd t/cases that have manual centre diff lock? Not that I have much knowledge of non-rover stuff.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:35 pm
by bubs
antt what vehicle is this for, that will also determine which t-case

how can you forget the heavy weight NP205 :twisted:

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:14 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Bush65 wrote:Wouldn't you be able to do front digs with other full time 4wd t/cases that have manual centre diff lock? Not that I have much knowledge of non-rover stuff.


Exactly what I was thinking - though the T-case would need to have a handbrake mounted on the rear output and be strong enough to hold up to the abuse.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:14 pm
by RUFF
Bush65 wrote:Wouldn't you be able to do front digs with other full time 4wd t/cases that have manual centre diff lock? Not that I have much knowledge of non-rover stuff.


Absolutly. Any T case with a manually activated centre diff lock has the capability of Front Digging. As long as the hand brake works well. Wether the other Transfers can handle it for long i dont know. The LT230s seam to be coping well so far. I have done a few good FWD Burns as well.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:36 am
by slosh
RUFF wrote:
slosh wrote:
bubs wrote:
I know about the adaptor, It would have be easy to make that adaptor as my A340 to R1FA t-case adaptor I made

Is there a call for such an adaptor :?

Slosh, yes, very easy, get me an LT230 and I can make the adaptor I have enough A340E autos to work from :cool:


Sounds good bubs, will look into it.

Finding an lt230 with the 1:1.2 high range is not so easy I hear.


Basicaly anything with a ZF Auto has a 1.22 transfer. Discos and Rangies. The 1.22 is the most common.


Last time I inquired heard that someone forked out over $2000 for one, tho prolly had box with it.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:37 am
by slosh
Can the lt230 be converted to part time operation like the 80 series transfers can?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:48 am
by Surfection
Don't forget guys, rear disconnect is available for hilux transfers. I have one on the way ;) If you are thinking the lux transfer won't be strong enough for you then this doesn't apply. :?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:25 am
by bubs
Surfection wrote:Don't forget guys, rear disconnect is available for hilux transfers. I have one on the way ;) If you are thinking the lux transfer won't be strong enough for you then this doesn't apply. :?


You getting on of those trail tuff? disconnects?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:49 pm
by Surfection
bubs wrote:
Surfection wrote:Don't forget guys, rear disconnect is available for hilux transfers. I have one on the way ;) If you are thinking the lux transfer won't be strong enough for you then this doesn't apply. :?


You getting on of those trail tuff? disconnects?


Correct.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:21 pm
by Bush65
slosh wrote:Can the lt230 be converted to part time operation like the 80 series transfers can?


Yes.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:50 pm
by slosh
Bush65 wrote:
slosh wrote:Can the lt230 be converted to part time operation like the 80 series transfers can?


Yes.


I'm listening......

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:07 pm
by ISUZUROVER
slosh wrote:
Bush65 wrote:
slosh wrote:Can the lt230 be converted to part time operation like the 80 series transfers can?


Yes.


I'm listening......


Do you expect to be spoonfed - plenty of info in the rover section on here and pirate.

You can buy a kit from Ashcroft transmissions in the UK or do the mod yourself by welding the centre diff and making a support bearing for the front output.

Of course if you do this mod then you can no longer do front digs.

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:56 pm
by Bush65
Wendle wrote:what is the lateral measurement from the input centreline to the front output centreline on the LT230?


The L stands for Leyland, T stands for Transmission and 230 is centre distance in mm (for transfer case between the input and output shaft, for gearboxes such as the LT77, LT85 and LT95 between main and layshaft).

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:43 am
by Wendle
Bush65 wrote:The L stands for Leyland, T stands for Transmission and 230 is centre distance in mm (for transfer case between the input and output shaft, for gearboxes such as the LT77, LT85 and LT95 between main and layshaft).


cheers..