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Posted: **Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:57 pm**

Just had a quick search on sill bars and it seems the two being used are the haultech ones and the rangie spares items. Currently chssing some bars to replace the sidsteps (standard) on the disco which drop ground clearance by about 40-50mm.

Does anyone have any pics of the haultech ones??

I wouldn't mind some of these from rovertym in the US as they have the extra protrusion that stops carpark dents in the door. However I cannot be stuffed getting anything from the US and $550US is a ripoff.

Does anyone have any indication of prices for both the rangie spares and haultech items.

Cheers
Stuart

Posted: **Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:35 pm**

The Rangie Spares ones are about $390 from Graeme Cooper.

Posted: **Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:02 pm**

Cheers. Anyone one got any info on the haultech ones. From the discussion they sounded quite good.

Posted: **Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:59 pm**

they look sweet man shame about the insane price! :cool:

Posted: **Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:15 pm**

BIg StEvE wrote:they look sweet man shame about the insane price!

Don't look too hard to make and weld up.
Discoweb has a tech section on making your own, get the gift and change the design to look like these

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:57 am**

The Rovertym ones are completely different to the Rangie Spares ones, which attach to the body rather than the Chassis. I saw a Silver Disco at Narrabeen last weekend with the Rangie Spares ones which still had crunched front guard and LH door, although I do not know whether this was before or after the bars.
I am planning on buying the Rangies Spares ones , as they seem light and should prevent the most common rock step damage ie dropping the B pillar on a step and bending the body in the middle. They also look good as they are curved to match the sill line.
Has anyone had experience with the Rangie Spares ones. Do they stiffen the body enough to prevent panel damage from a straight drop, and prevent body bending.
Regards Philip A

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:47 pm**

I have the haultech ones...... but I dont have em fitted yet :oops:

and just yesterday I smashup up my passeger side sills

I can try get sum photos of em for you but no promises

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:26 pm**

Those top ones look strong and heavy, wouldnt be hard to copy either.

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:46 pm**

The Haultech ones are good as well as the best value for money, have no money ATM to get any :bad-words:

Rangie Spares ones are not too bad also, byt mad out of round tube not RHS like the Haultech ones.

Trav

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:30 pm**

can some one please post a pic of the Haultech bars :?:

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:17 pm**

give me a day or two and I will get a pic, you don't want them too strong/overengineered I would rather them bend than the sill or the chassis rail (if you bolt them there) and you don't really want to increase your track width that much if possible

The haultech ones attach to the sill with glue and rivets which makes them plenty strong enough. Put it this way, when I removed them from my two door rangie I took all the rivets out and then stood on the end and jumped up and down and they didn't budge.

I had to bend them away from the sill and cut them with a stanley knife, it took me about 1 hour to removed them from my old car.

I would go with the haultech ones, at the price quoted they are really only covering costs - someone has to make them by hand, weld and paint.

Tom

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:18 pm**

BIg StEvE wrote:can some one please post a pic of the Haultech bars

There's a thread here somewhere with pic's of Sam's disco with the sliders. Look around Dec 2003.

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:40 pm**

So far I'm sold on the haultech items. I'm keen to see a picture first but if their rhs it means I can get some protrusions welded on later to stop car park dings. I tried to find that pic of sams disco but to no avail. Will keep trying.

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:04 pm**

stuee wrote:So far I'm sold on the haultech items. I'm keen to see a picture first but if their rhs it means I can get some protrusions welded on later to stop car park dings. I tried to find that pic of sams disco but to no avail. Will keep trying.

There was an thread on the haultech slider install on here, with pics, but that was probably before the pics went down. PM Sam - he still might have the pics on his computer. They may also be able to make you a custom set that come out further than std if you want.

Posted: **Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:39 pm**

can anyone tell me if there are any clearance problems with sill tanks using either Rangie spares or Haultec bars. I picked up a set of new Rangie spares sill tanks a while ago and thought I might fit some rails at the same time. the sill tanks will be mounted higher than usual to take advantage of body lift.

thanks

Posted: **Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:53 pm**

If you have sill tanks it would be pointless fitting the bars as your tanks will hit first every time.

Posted: **Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:51 pm**

Sorry, forgot about lost pics. Here are some of Sam's pics.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:47 pm**

If you have sill tanks it would be pointless fitting the bars as your tanks will hit first every time.

I was not worried about bottoming out but more with shopping park dents to the doors that I think the sill rails could prevent

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:54 pm**

I give up I cant get this quote thing right :bad-words:

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:46 pm**

PeterO wrote:
I was not worried about bottoming out but more with shopping park dents to the doors that I think the sill rails could prevent

The tanks on my series landie come down lower than my sill bars, but I wouldn't be without them - they are great at protecting the truck against rubbing up against trees and rocks offroad. I rarely touch anything from underneath, only side on (fuel tanks are surprisingly strong too - as the dints in mine will attest).

Posted: **Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:39 am**

They still provide you slider style protection and a place to use your hi lift
jack, and you could armour the tanks a bit more and tie them in to the bottom of the slider if you so wished

Tom

Posted: **Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:04 pm**

thanks Tom & Ben thats what I was looking for. I have had a look at the way they would mount and thought I might use a bit of 75X35 hand rail or 125X35 handrail it has a nice rounded edge and flat top and bottom and I have some in the shed. what is the glue Haultech use? liquid nails or some other builders glue?
Cheers

Posted: **Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:37 pm**

PeterO wrote:thanks Tom & Ben thats what I was looking for. I have had a look at the way they would mount and thought I might use a bit of 75X35 hand rail or 125X35 handrail it has a nice rounded edge and flat top and bottom and I have some in the shed. what is the glue Haultech use? liquid nails or some other builders glue?
Cheers

neutral cure roof and gutter silicon, go with bostik brand that works pretty well, they use another brand now but I can't remember which one, either way mine are glued in with bostik brand - bunnings carry it $4 per tube

Smell the tube - make sure it doesn;t smell like vinegear it has to be neutral cure

Tom

Posted: **Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:05 pm**

I just made up some rock sliders for my Rangie it took about a day but the price was right as it only cost me $60 in materials.

Posted: **Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:07 am**

malibu9 wrote:I just made up some rock sliders for my Rangie it took about a day but the price was right as it only cost me $60 in materials.

Swwwweeeeeetttt THEY look nice man well done! :armsup:

Posted: **Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:07 am**

I have tried contacting sam (strange rover??) via pm re the sill bars but have yet to recieve a reply. Does anyone have an email or something for haultech?

Posted: **Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:27 pm**

Try PMing RUFF

Posted: **Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:48 pm**

stuee wrote:I have tried contacting sam (strange rover??) via pm re the sill bars but have yet to recieve a reply. Does anyone have an email or something for haultech?

Phone and email here.

http://www.haultech.com/Contact.shtml

Posted: **Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:50 pm**

RaginRover wrote:
PeterO wrote:thanks Tom & Ben thats what I was looking for. I have had a look at the way they would mount and thought I might use a bit of 75X35 hand rail or 125X35 handrail it has a nice rounded edge and flat top and bottom and I have some in the shed. what is the glue Haultech use? liquid nails or some other builders glue?
Cheers

neutral cure roof and gutter silicon, go with bostik brand that works pretty well, they use another brand now but I can't remember which one, either way mine are glued in with bostik brand - bunnings carry it $4 per tube

Smell the tube - make sure it doesn;t smell like vinegear it has to be neutral cure

Tom

If you don't ever want to take them off use sikaflex (291) - available from marine and some auto outlets. It is the strongest silicon on the market - and is neutral cure.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:10 pm**

Hi Stuart,

I have just recently designed and completed some rock sliders or sill protectors for the DII. They are heaps better than anything on the market here in Australia, so much so you can even use a high lift jack on them.

They not only protect your door sill but they also protect you body sill as well. As you will see from the photos I have sent to you they have a side rail for side protection. These bars are powder coated and mounted using high tensile bolts with captive nuts which leave a very nice finish on the inside of the door. Instead of seeing ends of bolts.

I have sent an email with pictures let me know what you think.

Cheers,

Michael Samootin
4x4 Design and Engineering

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