recovery hooks

Post by **jacka** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:55 pm

Is there anyone out there that can fit off the shelf recovery hooks to a sierra as the holes run east west as opposed to conventional hooks?

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:58 pm

I fitted one that I bought from ARB the same day I fitted the towbar.

Just drilled 2 holes (I needed to do them for the towbar anyway)

Will

Post by **jacka** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:01 pm

What about the front Will?

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:05 pm

Have an ARB bull bar and it has two recovery rerinforced holes, so no need of.

Will

Post by **jacka** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:27 pm

Mate, mine let go last week and my d shackle went through the back window of my mates disco, dont trust it. I have an Arb too.

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:35 pm

OOOPSSS!!

Well I still have the factory one underneath the front end.

Will

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:37 pm

BTW, Was it the Shackle taht snapped or the actual hole???

Do you have pics??

Will

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:54 pm

The front arb points are tow points only and are to be used with a equaliser strap to even out the towing.

chuck a hook onto the chassis on the front.

cheers

Post by **roadrunner** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:57 pm

jacka wrote:Mate, mine let go last week and my d shackle went through the back window of my mates disco, dont trust it. I have an Arb too.

Probably safer to use two hooks with a load sharing sling between them. Halves the load on each hook

I wouldn't put a D or Bow shackle on the recovery hook though, connect your strap / sling direct

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:20 pm

Yeah the recovery hook is a way to save the time on putting the shackle and srew it.

Will

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:25 pm

And the fact of the two hooks is not always recommended. Have seen a sierra being snatched from two bacck hooks, and the chasis bent inwards each side. Not strog enough to cope with that pulling force coming from both sides.

Not sure about the reinforcement of the front chasis, but I rather to pull it from one side only.

Will

Post by **J Top** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:45 pm

I think that if the chassis bent in with a dual hook pull then a single hook pull would double the force on a single rail, then I think your chassis rails would be offset to each other.
When mounting hooks through your chassis always put crush tubes for the bolts to pull up tight on, and stay tight, rather then crushing the rail and loosening off.
J Top

Post by **jacka** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:09 pm

Prob with mounting a hook on the standard eye under the front is that it would be facing left( as you look from the front). New holes need to be drilled to the chasis which is what I am trying to avoid. In my case it was the eyelet on the bar that let go not the d shackle. And put a cargo barrier in your vehicle to protect yourself!

Post by **roadrunner** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:24 pm

This is my front two and back two, always used a equaliser sling and never had a prob

I know its not a sierra but the principles the same.

If you are worried about your chassis flexing inward when sharing the load then put in a new xmember or brace your old one.

Post by **nicbeer** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:42 pm

Try here for pics

http://www.suzishop.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4287

cheers

Post by **munecito** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:48 pm

Probably it would double the force, but it is a straight pulling instead of two diagonal forces trying to get together. Well that is my non scientific explanaition of what i saw.

Will

Post by **built4thrashing** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:38 pm

dont use the factory recovery hoop as it will rip the entire front tube chasis cross member and the steering damper right out.
well it did to me

Post by **munga** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:20 pm

ouch.
i have a hoop/ring welded on to the tube that runs across the front and ties the chassis rails together. is this the factory one you are talking about?

Post by **built4thrashing** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:40 pm

yeh. thats the one. i ended up cutting the piece out of a wreck and welding it in place with a thicker pipe inside.

Post by **munecito** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:52 pm

So i will need to study fitting a recovery hook in the front instead of that silly hoop, let's see.

Will

Post by **mudfkr** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:25 pm

built4thrashing wrote:dont use the factory recovery hoop as it will rip the entire front tube chasis cross member and the steering damper right out.
well it did to me

You mean like this .....

Post by **flyinwall** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:44 pm

mudfkr wrote:
built4thrashing wrote:dont use the factory recovery hoop as it will rip the entire front tube chasis cross member and the steering damper right out.
well it did to me

You mean like this .....

the best thing to do with them is to cut the bloody thing off so you dont ever get tempted to use it

Post by **mistaboz** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:43 pm

The ARB bar also has 2 holes further up (not down the bottom near the chassis rails). The holes are spaced exactly how the holes are on a recovery hook. Coincedence? I doubt it

Post by **nicbeer** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:44 pm

mistaboz wrote:The ARB bar also has 2 holes further up (not down the bottom near the chassis rails). The holes are spaced exactly how the holes are on a recovery hook. Coincedence? I doubt it

Yes a recovery hook does mount there but i still would not use these mounts except for towing.

Sierra arb bars dont mount onto the chassis with much meat, Snatching exerts a lot of force.

cheers

Post by **84ZOOKSTA** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:16 pm

I have 2 recovery points on the rear they are connected directy to the chassis i always use a equaliser strap between them.

I used one existing hole and then drilled another hole for the second bolt.

I dont have any on the front as yet but am always after a good suggestion on how to mount 2 on there.

Simon.

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