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325/85/16 on a 8in rim?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:38 am
by china
will these tyres fit on a 8in rim or sould they go on a 10 ?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:17 am
by Ryano
I wouldn't be putting them on anything smaller than a 10".
Recommended would be 10-12".

Cheers,
Ryano

16X8

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:47 pm
by china
THANKS

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:28 am
by CRUSHU
as they are only a 13" wide tyre, i would have full confidence in putting them on 8" rims.

37" x terrains work well on 8" rims, and they are wider and shorter
my 38.5 TSL SX were on 8" rims, they wer 14.5 wide.

Re: 325/85/16 on a 8in rim?

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:31 am
by bogged
china wrote:will these tyres fit on a 8in rim or sould they go on a 10 ?

what does the manufacturers website say? Depends on what tire brand nad model your talking about...

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:58 am
by GRIMACE
8" rims ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:03 am
by Ryano
CRUSHU wrote:as they are only a 13" wide tyre, i would have full confidence in putting them on 8" rims.

37" x terrains work well on 8" rims, and they are wider and shorter
my 38.5 TSL SX were on 8" rims, they wer 14.5 wide.


You could put them on an 8" rim but I definately wouldn't. The tyre is closer to 13.5" wide.
Tyre manufacturers recommend rim widths for a reason... their tyres perform better and last longer and have less structural problems within these guidelines. When a tyre is put on a rim that is far too narrow for it, there are repercussions long term.
With a Radial Tyre the Steel belts are pulled into a concave curve, giving the tyre a higher crown radius (causing rapid centre wear and decreased handling), more chance of belt edge seperation (As the belts try to flatten themselves out and pull in the opposite direction to the rubber, eventually tearing it) and a lot more uneven wear.
Ideally to maximise sidewall strength the shoulder of the tyre should sit as close to perpendicular to the bead as possible. Obviously for offroad use this isn't always the best option as there is more chance of damaging a rim.
With the deflation of tyres, the sidewall is going to be angled across the lip of the rim fairly firmly which can cause lower sidewall damage.

Not so bad for a Bias tyre....but for a Radial I wouldn't tempt fate by running these tyres on an 8"rim.

Each to there own though.
Ryano

rims

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:32 pm
by china
they will be off road 98% of time, n the tyre has no rim reconmendation size on it.
so being on a norrower rim does it hold bead better or more chance of rolln off ? not worryed about un even wear.

Re: rims

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:53 pm
by turps
china wrote:they will be off road 98% of time, n the tyre has no rim reconmendation size on it.
so being on a norrower rim does it hold bead better or more chance of rolln off ? not worryed about un even wear.


these arnt a Michlan tyre are they.

tyres

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:39 am
by china
yes they are ! what do u know ?

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:59 am
by Ryano
china wrote:they will be off road 98% of time, n the tyre has no rim reconmendation size on it.
so being on a norrower rim does it hold bead better or more chance of rolln off ? not worryed about un even wear.


Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:36 am
by GRIMACE
Ryano wrote:
china wrote:they will be off road 98% of time, n the tyre has no rim reconmendation size on it.
so being on a norrower rim does it hold bead better or more chance of rolln off ? not worryed about un even wear.


Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.


I say go with an 8" rim :D thast my suggestion
they are approved for a 9" rim and max speed of 100km/h but 150km/h will be safe :D
http://www.tirecraft.com/commercial/MichXMLspecs.htm

half the michelin tyres on the military vehicles are on 8" rims ;)

ow and the q about the beads holding they do hold better but in such a tall tyre its not as beneficial :D

this is the tyre in questioning right ;)
Image

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:42 am
by bogged
Ryano wrote:Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.


I agree. having seen some JT2's on 10 inch rims, they look like they would work so much better than the 8's I might start lookin for a set of 10's myself.

I seem to remember Mr Hobbs mentioning he had some at Procomp for cheap...

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:47 am
by GRIMACE
bogged wrote:
Ryano wrote:Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.


I agree. having seen some JT2's on 10 inch rims, they look like they would work so much better than the 8's I might start lookin for a set of 10's myself.

I seem to remember Mr Hobbs mentioning he had some at Procomp for cheap...


Bogged
dont know wat made you think that :roll: you will loose the bead alot easier, it might not completely pop but alot more mud and junk wil get in there..... unless you never drop the tyres below 18psi DONT GO 10" rims with your JT2s.

Re: tyres

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:47 am
by turps
china wrote:yes they are ! what do u know ?


I have been keen on getting a 2nd hand set myself. But dont know the right people yet to make the inquirey. Also I think I would have to leave the vavles out to get them to work at all.

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:51 am
by bogged
AnthonyP wrote:dont know wat made you think that :roll: you will loose the bead alot easier, it might not completely pop but alot more mud and junk wil get in there..... unless you never drop the tyres below 18psi DONT GO 10" rims with your JT2s.


they bagged REAL well on the 10's, and looked much better. They even had a more chunky look to them. Maybe 9's would be the go...

I suffer from crap in the beads lots now with the 8's and 12psi, so :(

Re: tyres

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:39 am
by Shorty40
turps wrote:
china wrote:yes they are ! what do u know ?


I have been keen on getting a 2nd hand set myself. But dont know the right people yet to make the inquirey. Also I think I would have to leave the vavles out to get them to work at all.


Get yourself a tyre groover and ATTACK THEM :twisted:

Re: tyres

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:42 pm
by GRIMACE
Shorty40 wrote:
turps wrote:
china wrote:yes they are ! what do u know ?


I have been keen on getting a 2nd hand set myself. But dont know the right people yet to make the inquirey. Also I think I would have to leave the vavles out to get them to work at all.


Get yourself a tyre groover and ATTACK THEM :twisted:


amen to that :armsup:

Re: tyres

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:44 pm
by turps
Shorty40 wrote:
turps wrote:
china wrote:yes they are ! what do u know ?


I have been keen on getting a 2nd hand set myself. But dont know the right people yet to make the inquirey. Also I think I would have to leave the vavles out to get them to work at all.


Get yourself a tyre groover and ATTACK THEM :twisted:


Gotta see if I can get some first. Evan worn 2ndhand ones should be good. To bad I dont need old unimog tyres. I did know where was alot of almost new ones. Guess they where just going to an auction some where.

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:58 pm
by china
AnthonyP wrote:
bogged wrote:
Ryano wrote:Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.


I agree. having seen some JT2's on 10 inch rims, they look like they would work so much better than the 8's I might start lookin for a set of 10's myself.

I seem to remember Mr Hobbs mentioning he had some at Procomp for cheap...


Bogged
dont know wat made you think that :roll: you will loose the bead alot easier, it might not completely pop but alot more mud and junk wil get in there..... unless you never drop the tyres below 18psi DONT GO 10" rims with your JT2s.

why not 10's on pedes? doesn't it reco' to use then ?

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:02 pm
by china
AnthonyP wrote:
Ryano wrote:
china wrote:they will be off road 98% of time, n the tyre has no rim reconmendation size on it.
so being on a norrower rim does it hold bead better or more chance of rolln off ? not worryed about un even wear.


Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.


I say go with an 8" rim :D thast my suggestion
they are approved for a 9" rim and max speed of 100km/h but 150km/h will be safe :D
http://www.tirecraft.com/commercial/MichXMLspecs.htm

half the michelin tyres on the military vehicles are on 8" rims ;)


ow and the q about the beads holding they do hold better but in such a tall tyre its not as beneficial :D

this is the tyre in questioning right ;)
Image

yep thats it they are way thick sidewalls too !!

Re: rims

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:22 pm
by GRIMACE
china wrote:
AnthonyP wrote:
bogged wrote:
Ryano wrote:Go with a 10" rim.
That's my suggestion. Hope it helps.


I agree. having seen some JT2's on 10 inch rims, they look like they would work so much better than the 8's I might start lookin for a set of 10's myself.

I seem to remember Mr Hobbs mentioning he had some at Procomp for cheap...


Bogged
dont know wat made you think that :roll: you will loose the bead alot easier, it might not completely pop but alot more mud and junk wil get in there..... unless you never drop the tyres below 18psi DONT GO 10" rims with your JT2s.

why not 10's on pedes? doesn't it reco' to use then ?


You can with the Pedes and you can with the JT2s aswell but the bead gets very weak when you run low pressures, I personally would never run JT2s on a 10" rim, the larger 36x12.5 Extreme Trekers I would but i prefer to have them on an 8" rim..... wierd maybe i am just a fan of 8" rims :?

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:07 pm
by china
ok i'll get some 8's n see how they go! cos i can't find any 10's cheap enuf.